Can't see XP Machine in Windows 7

[sup3rsprt]

What about mapping network drives as an alternate solution? Instead of clicking on the computer you only have to type its hostname like \\hostname

At least this is how it works for me.

 

[Jopplehead]

The network drives is an IDEA. It's not the solution I would like but if it works it will be something I can use until I figure a better way. Let me see how it works. Only thing I can remember I hated about network drives is that if the machine that the network drive was linked to was not on... you got an annoying alert at startup that said... could not connect to device...

 

[sup3rsprt]

Yeah this whole situation is pretty annoying.

My XP machine can see Windows 7 just fine, without any additional software. But I hesitate to install some extra bloat on my XP machine just so Windows 7 will work...

 

[Jopplehead]

Thanks for the tip. The network drive will work. I did confirm that I get two annoying things with it. First thing is the startup will take 5 times longer than normal if the machin the drive is connected to is NOT turned on. Second is that I get that freaking alert that the device is not connected to the drive. Is there a way to KEEP my shortcut to the internet drive w/o reconnecting the network drive at start?? PLEASE.

 

[sup3rsprt]

You can make a shortcut to the network drive on your desktop or somewhere else that you prefer. Just right-click and go New Shortcut then type in \\hostname\share

 

[zigzag3143]

sharing prob

You can make a shortcut to the network drive on your desktop or somewhere else that you prefer. Just right-click and go New Shortcut then type in \\hostname\share

hey
thanks for sticking in . I tried to PM you but obviously its turned off and visitor messages as well

anyway nice answers and peristance

Ken

 

[sup3rsprt]

Thanks zigzag3143,

Now this is strange. I was just messing around with XP and Windows 7 and I was actually able to get my XP computer to show up in Windows 7 without installing that LLTD or whatever it's called.

I made sure both computers were in the same workgroup. I ran the Network Setup wizard on the XP machine. I used a program called "TuneUp Utilities", in the "Network" section I reset everything to defaults.

Why it is working now, I have yet to actually figure that out. :sarc:

Maybe you can try some of that stuff and see if it works for you.

Also, I have simple file sharing disabled on my XP box (My Computer > Tools > Folder Options > View > disable Simple file sharing) because this requires me to log in using a username and password.

 

[Jopplehead]

hey
thanks for sticking in . I tried to PM you but obviously its turned off and visitor messages as well

anyway nice answers and peristance

Ken

Sorry, I quickly sent a PM response to yours and I was too flustrated at that point to continue. I want to thank EVERYONE for there help. I actually went with "sup3rsprt" solution to make a shortcut on my desktop. It seems to work very nice and not need an auto connect at startup!

I would like to get it working properly to show XP machines but for now... There is nothing wrong with having a shortcut on my desktop to the shared folder I was tickled that I even was able to password protect the shared folder in XP by using the same old trick of password protecting the "Guest" Account on the XP machine.

Now... I just wonder if using a network printer in the future will be a problem :shock:

Thanks sooo much guys. Your help and solutions made my day!!

 

[sup3rsprt]

You're welcome I'm glad it works for you.

If I ever figure out what fixed it, I'll let you know. I've been using Windows for years and never really did figure out exactly how to deal with this file sharing mess. I have a bunch of programs and scripts that I use in my environment, but they probably won't suit yours very well.

 

[screwballl]

Now... I just wonder if using a network printer in the future will be a problem :shock:

I have a wireless Lexmark X4550 and the software/networking works fine in W7.... works better than finding the XP shares for sure...

 

[Jopplehead]

Good to Know Thanks.

 

[Bozo60]

let's hope the RTM address's this. The fix however is to type in the Computer name of the XP machine in the address bar of a local directory in Windows 7 and up pop the shared directories. This works if of course you can ping both the IP address or the Computer Name of the XP machine. I tried all the recommendations in this forum with no success. Hope this works for others.

 

[ProsperousOne]

I've got the same e!@#%@#^% problem!!! Here's my config: 1. Wireless Router hooked to Internet (via ethernet cable to cable modem). 2. Windows 7 Desktop hooked to wireless router via ethernet cable. 3. XP Laptop connects to wireless router via wireless connection. Both can independantly access internet no problem. But of course, the Desktop and Laptopu can't see each other, nor share squat. The XP Laptop can ping the Win 7 Desktop and receives a reply. However, the Win7 Desktop cannot ping the XP Laptop (timeout after no reply). I've disabled all firewalls, anti virus software, and anti-malware software. P1's getting frustrated#$%@#$%

 

[Zhaguar]

Hi just wanted to share that I had a similar problem. Workgroup where Win 7 laptop could not see or access in any way Win XP Pro and Win98SE machines. Solution: Installed Link Layer Topology Discovery from microsoft.com on Win XP Pro machines allowing them to be visible in network map. Then in the Network adapter properties I unchecked Trend Micro NDIS 6.0 Filter Driver and that allowed access and visibility of all Win XP Pro and Win98SE machines.

 

[unionshroomer]

If you tuned up your win 7 make sure you check these services are enab

DOH! i found the solution to my problem after hours of searching on forums and I felt like an idiot after discovering it. When I first installed Win7 I "tuned" it up to make it faster per some tips i found on another website. In msconfig i disabled several services, two of which were IP Helper and TCP/IP Netbios helper. I went back and reinstated those services and rebooted and VIOLA! I had XP networking. This was also on top of all the other settings I found too (work network, same homegroup, no 128 bit encryption). Hope that helps someone.

 

[ProsperousOne]

I've got the same e!@#%@#^% problem!!! Here's my config: 1. Wireless Router hooked to Internet (via ethernet cable to cable modem). 2. Windows 7 Desktop hooked to wireless router via ethernet cable. 3. XP Laptop connects to wireless router via wireless connection. Both can independantly access internet no problem. But of course, the Desktop and Laptopu can't see each other, nor share squat. The XP Laptop can ping the Win 7 Desktop and receives a reply. However, the Win7 Desktop cannot ping the XP Laptop (timeout after no reply). I've disabled all firewalls, anti virus software, and anti-malware software. P1's getting frustrated#$%@#$%

Ended up finding my problem.

In the XP wireless network connection Properties window, The "Client for Microsoft Networks" was unchecked. DOOH!

 

[mikefapp]

Cannot see ...

On my machine it was not a firewall issue. On the Windows 7 computer I had to go to the Networking Properties of the connection from Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center and turn off AGN Filter Interface (64-bit).

 

[JoeMax]

I had the same problem, Win 7 64 would not see XP box. I went to "Network and Sharing Center" > "Advanced Sharing Settings" scrolled down to "File Sharing Connections" and changed the setting from 128 Bit encryption to "Enable File Sharing for devices that use 40 or 56 Bit Encryption". Then I could see my XP machine.

Disclaimer, this worked for me but I have not completely understood all the forgoing in this thread. With 4 pages of replies, I did not read all completely, and did not see this "possible solution" mentioned.

 

[symp]

Put XP 32bit on a box instead of XP64bit because of a recording issue,
was unable to network them,
could ping thier names, thier ips, etc.

Until I tried JoeMaxx solution I was about to give up..
setting the encryption lower and they popped right up on both machines.
tanks Joe

 

[SunHiker]

Now can see but not access XP machine from Windows 7

I wonder how many more hours I'll have to waste before I stumble on some way these two machines can access each other? It's taken me a lot of hours already, just to get to this suggestion: install LLTD on the XP machine.

So I downloaded the LLTD installer and ran it on my XP SP3. Result: one error message saying "Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of this system is newer than the update you are applying. There is no need to install this update." So much for that fix.

Next I tried the suggestion to drop the encryption to a lower level. Aha! Now W7 can see there is an XP machine on the network, and knows its name, but still cannot access it. Windows Network Diagnostics merely says "Windows can't find a computer or device named [XPNAME]". Knows its name, but can't "find" it? So, how did W7 discover its name?? This makes no sense at all to me.