Certain image editing/viewing software "stopped working" Window close

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Certain image editing/viewing software "stopped working" Window close

Hi,
I'm hoping someone can see a pattern between the software that works and doesn't work on my Windows 7 64 bit laptop.

In the past month (Jan-Feb 2011) a lot of the software I use to edit or display images and graphics will no longer run (crashes). System: Windows 7 64 bit SP1. 3 GB RAM, 500 GB HD Acer 6492 laptop with mobile intel 965 express graphics card. Windows Update reports it is up to date.

I don't get BSOD, just that when I start one of the affected programs, it fails to run and shuts down.Windows continues to run fine. I either get "___ has encountered a problem and needs to close" or "___ has stopped working, Windows is searching for a solutio to the problem".

Programs that won't run:
Google Earth neither Directx nor GL
PhotoPlus X4
Paintshop Pro X3
Xara Designer Pro 6

Programs that run fine
Picasa
PanoramaPlus
PanoramaStudio
SmartDraw
World Wind

I wonder what is the pattern or common denominator.

Symptom started roughly when I installed a new 500 GB drive (Seagate Momentus XT with 4GB RAM buffer 7200 RPM) in place of the 500 GB non-hybrid 5400 RPM drive. This is the 4th drive I've had in this laptop 160GB -> 320 GB -> 500 GB -> 500 GB with 4 GB buffer. Each time I had a Norton Ghost image of the C: drive, installed the new drive and restored the image to the C: drive. Windows fires up without a hitch. On some software I had to re-activate the licence as I guess the software noticed a change in harddrive ID number (or something like that).

Things I've tried.
- removed and re-installed the software that won't start
- removed Visual C++ 2005 and 2008, reinstalled 2008 only
- attempted an update of Directx, was told I had the most up to date installedd
- installed OEM (Acer) graphics driver
- let Windows update graphics driver
- removed drivers for a UVG USB video adapters for my 2 external monitors (no effect)
- downloded and did a manual install using the .exe file for Google Earth instead of the small auto installer download file.
- run laptop in dock ad out of dock (no usb peripherals attached).

Without those programs that won't start, I'm without half my tools for work. Another thought, is my 4 year old laptop inadvertently obsolete now with recent Windows7 updates?

Any tips very much appreciated.

thanks,
-Tony
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Travelmate 6492 laptop
OS
Windows 7 64 bit SP1
CPU
Core duo 1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
Acer
Memory
3 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel 965 express
Sound Card
motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop + external + 2 add'l external on UVGA USB adapters
Hard Drives
Seagate Momentus XT with 4 GB RAM ("hybrid")
PSU
AC adapter
Case
laptop
Internet Speed
12+ Mbps cable high speed
Other Info
Laptop age: manufactured 2007
Seems you did everything you could, however, have you run (full scan) of your anti-virus and malware software. Not sure if it would help, but it cannot hurt. Also you might attempt reinstalling the last HDD to see if there isn't a problem there. If not then it would be wise to attempt to reformat the 500 to see if that is the problem. Good Luck.

BTW, "Welcome to the Seven Forums," and thanks for filling in your system specs. . .:thumbsup:
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion a4302f
OS
Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
CPU
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz
Memory
12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25"
Screen Resolution
1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200
Hard Drives
Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
1 - 2.5" 500 USB External HDD
1 -1 Tb USB External HDD
Case
Mid Tower
Cooling
Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet)
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
10 Mbit (realistically 500 Kbit - 1.2 Mbit)
Other Info
Speakers - Bose Desktop (Excellent Sound)
1 external CD|DVD\Blue-ray Recorders/Players (Sony)
Do you still have restore points to a date before this all began? If you do, that would be my first move.

Have you run sfc /scannow from a prompt to check system files?

You say it started "roughly" when you got a new drive. It doesn't really sound like a hardware problem.

I assume you are satisfied it has nothing to do with SP1?

Are you using the most recent versions of all of those problematic applications?

Have you googled your brains out for people with similar problems with those same applications?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Hi Lee and ignatzatsonic,
Thanks for the rapid responses. In response to your questions:

I'll run a full scan next then sfc /scannow (I've never heard of sfc, great to know).

As far as I know, these are the latest versions of the image editing software, some come only on CDs and update from within the software with no option for downloading a fresh, current copy.

My last resort is to reformat the HD and start again for a couple of reason. I have one GIS (mapping) software that allows 5 activations. I've used up 3, one on this last HD installation. I don't want to get dangerously low. Second, this is my business laptop (self employed) and it'll take several days to reload software, updates etc. from scratch. So I'm trying to avoid that downtime. In fact I'm better off buying another laptop and just pop in CD/DVDs and let software install while I continue working.

As for restore points, I don't use the Windows ones but I have Norton Ghost making 2 images a week. That's an idea, but I'm afraid a Windows 7 update will leave me in the same situation in little time.

Regarding SP1, I installed that yesterday hoping it would offer a solution. It was an update I had to elect manually and it hadn't been installed when it first came out.

Yes, have googled endlessly. Seems there are lots of people for whom Google Earth stopped working recently on their Windows 64 bit machines. Most of those people have desktop computers and are having problems with their ATI or NVIDIA graphics cards and they can resolve by either replacing their video cards or updating drivers, not options for my laptop.

Will update this thread after the scans.

thanks,
-Tony
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Travelmate 6492 laptop
OS
Windows 7 64 bit SP1
CPU
Core duo 1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
Acer
Memory
3 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel 965 express
Sound Card
motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop + external + 2 add'l external on UVGA USB adapters
Hard Drives
Seagate Momentus XT with 4 GB RAM ("hybrid")
PSU
AC adapter
Case
laptop
Internet Speed
12+ Mbps cable high speed
Other Info
Laptop age: manufactured 2007
I'm sure you have your reasons, but I use System Restore 2 or 3 times a month---successfully, It's something of a replacement for imaging and fails only occasionally---maybe 2 times per hundred attempts. The downsides are the space it occupies, but that can be controlled. In the typical scenario, you need only a week's worth of them--3 or 4 GB typically.

Worst case scenario short of complete reinstall: go to a Ghost image (pray that it works) and thereafter use a lot of scrutiny before installing any particular Windows update. You might try this:

A: Restore Ghost image and test your apps. Make notes on what works.

B: Restore Ghost image and immediately apply SP1 and test your apps. Make notes on what works.

Pick the better of A or B and make a new Ghost and keep it long term.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Hi,
I scanned for viruses, worms and other detritis and only came up with download helper for youtube. Nothing bad was lurking on the laptop. I ran sfc as well and it found no problems.

My next step is to try the Vista video driver in place of the Windows 7 one.

After that, I may end up buying a new laptop. This is my main work PC and not having graphic editing programs working isn't practical.

But I''m still thinking I have a driver incompatibility or something I loaded changed an important setting. I just don't know what.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Travelmate 6492 laptop
OS
Windows 7 64 bit SP1
CPU
Core duo 1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
Acer
Memory
3 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel 965 express
Sound Card
motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop + external + 2 add'l external on UVGA USB adapters
Hard Drives
Seagate Momentus XT with 4 GB RAM ("hybrid")
PSU
AC adapter
Case
laptop
Internet Speed
12+ Mbps cable high speed
Other Info
Laptop age: manufactured 2007
Resolved, Windows stopped working

Hi,
I may have resolved the problem. I used the Services tab in MSconfig to turn off half of the services (with Microsoft services hidden) and rebooted. After Windows started I tested with Google Earth and Photoplus, if those two programs started I would turn on half of the remaining services and try again, eventually I got to appoint where Google Earth and Photoplus failed to start. Then I knew I had turned on an offending service, and by process of elimination identified the service "Tablet Service Pen" I think is associated with mine Wacom Bamboo Pen tablet. I will inquire to Wacom.

With Tablet Service Pen disabled, all my graphic and image editing programs worked again. What a relief.

Hope this helps somebody.
-Tony
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Travelmate 6492 laptop
OS
Windows 7 64 bit SP1
CPU
Core duo 1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
Acer
Memory
3 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel 965 express
Sound Card
motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop + external + 2 add'l external on UVGA USB adapters
Hard Drives
Seagate Momentus XT with 4 GB RAM ("hybrid")
PSU
AC adapter
Case
laptop
Internet Speed
12+ Mbps cable high speed
Other Info
Laptop age: manufactured 2007
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