Change to 'Bios' will make for PCs that boot in seconds

[shaunk37]

Sounds good to me. Does that apply to macs too or do macs already have that?

 

[madtownidiot]

Yes they do.

 

[mrmurder1975]

"At the moment it can be 25-30 seconds of boot time before you see the first bit of OS sign-on''.


i wish!!:huh:

 

[HQuest]

Having read through the whole thread... I sorta see madtownidiot's point. If for whatever reason (hardware failure, malware, PEBKAC...) the UEFI gets corrupted, I really hope there's a fallback somewhere kinda like the BIOS now so you won't be totally screwed. You'd just stick a bootable disc/usb and initiate repairs like we already do for hdds with problems. Or maybe have the ability to revert any UEFI configuration changes to the last known good one.

In fact, yes, there is a fallback. Taking Dell Optiplex machines as example -- I was testing exactly this scenario last week --, if you manage to screw your UEFI (took me a while to achieve that), the machine searches for a valid UEFI copy in a CD/DVD/USB device and, if found, it recovers its main copy from this recovery device. No data had been lost so far, and I was totally happy to see how easy this recovery was. Differently from the current BIOSes, which if screwed, you may end up with a dead machine, unless you can remove the damaged BIOS EEPROM and putting on a working and already powered on machine -- not by any chance a simple task an average user can do.

 

[Lordbob75]

Having read through the whole thread... I sorta see madtownidiot's point. If for whatever reason (hardware failure, malware, PEBKAC...) the UEFI gets corrupted, I really hope there's a fallback somewhere kinda like the BIOS now so you won't be totally screwed. You'd just stick a bootable disc/usb and initiate repairs like we already do for hdds with problems. Or maybe have the ability to revert any UEFI configuration changes to the last known good one.

In fact, yes, there is a fallback. Taking Dell Optiplex machines as example -- I was testing exactly this scenario last week --, if you manage to screw your UEFI (took me a while to achieve that), the machine searches for a valid UEFI copy in a CD/DVD/USB device and, if found, it recovers its main copy from this recovery device. No data had been lost so far, and I was totally happy to see how easy this recovery was. Differently from the current BIOSes, which if screwed, you may end up with a dead machine, unless you can remove the damaged BIOS EEPROM and putting on a working and already powered on machine -- not by any chance a simple task an average user can do.

Great to know, thanks!

~Lordbob

 

[funkybassist]

Sounds sweet!!!

 

[Trucidation]

Great to know, thanks!

Ditto, thanks HQuest!

 

[madtownidiot]

Having researched this further, it really isn't too hard to back up uefi. But it will put me out of a good portion of my business if manufacturers don't provide uefi downloads for machines they decide to stop supporting as soon as the warranty expires. Get a machine with dead HDD.. and if you can't find an efi image for that system, it might as well be used as a doorstop.

 

[si8mon]

Well Sandy Bridge has been released and with that MSI and Asus have released all there ps7 boards with UEFI.

Here's the Asus UEFI review.

There isn't one out yet for MSI's UEFI.

 

[Skulblaka]

Well Sandy Bridge has been released and with that MSI and Asus have released all there ps7 boards with UEFI.

Here's the Asus UEFI review.

There isn't one out yet for MSI's UEFI.

No way, when I first saw that screen shot, it looked like something from a movie. Looks way too graphical.

Heh, guess the movies have slight truth to them.

 

[QuackPot]

Having researched this further, it really isn't too hard to back up uefi. But it will put me out of a good portion of my business if manufacturers don't provide uefi downloads for machines they decide to stop supporting as soon as the warranty expires. Get a machine with dead HDD.. and if you can't find an efi image for that system, it might as well be used as a doorstop.

Have you got any links to back up your claims? Just that I'd like to find out more about this.

 

[si8mon]

Here's a review video of the Asus UEFI.

YouTube - ASUS Sandy Bridge UEFI Preview

Here's a video (not a review) of MSI's Click Bios (UEFI).

YouTube - MSI Click Bios (UEFI) Video