Solved Clean install, install drivers or win updates first?

peteagreatguy

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Hi all,

I'll be doing a clean install of my system this week but am unsure on if I should either ...

a) Install drivers first after the initial clean install ... then update Windows Updates or ...

b) Install Windows Updates before drivers ... ???

I tend to install Service Pack 1 straight after initial install before the above.

Thanks for your advice as I'm confused by answers all over the internet.
 

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Well Hi again,
you should be able to get a W7 Service pack 1 download direct from MS.
(as long as its a retail licence, otherwise i could get you one, after running this tool, copy/paste output)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=52012

Update your drivers before you run Windows Updates.


Roy
 

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Hi Roy :),

Is there a reason for installing all my drivers before windows updates?

AND ... Should I install SP1 (already downloaded) before or after driver installations?

Thanks :)
 

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Hi Pete,
Windows is allways playing catch-up driver wise, so thier list is basically allways out of date.

Do you want a W7 with SP1 ALLREADY included if so follow my last set of instructions.
(note it will save you installing a load of updates)


Roy
 

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Hi Roy,

No thanks.

I intend to install via USB, install drivers (as instructed), install SP1, install the April 2015 servicing stack, install the April 2016 convenience rollup and then just update as normal.

I intend on creating a backup image of the system after a total reinstall using Backupper (used it for a laptop and liked it a lot).

Pete :)
 

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My preference would be to install drivers first, then apply the updates if you really want to.

Reasons for this are that drivers are of utmost importance to the normal working of the computer, while we can live without the updates (I want to ensure a working system as soon as possible). Also, installing updates requires an internet connection, that in turn requires a driver of your network card (in case Windows don't bundles a generic one that works).

All the drivers can (and should) be installed totally offline from a pendrive or CD, previously downloaded from the official site, from a backup or the original hardware media, so you can have them without even going to internet. That gives a chance to apply some basic security measures before entering internet too.

My obvious exception would be if a driver requires a specific update, then there is no choice, that update must go first :p

That said, I don't find anything particularly bad in doing the other way around. Installing the updates first isn't a bad option either, and I can't find any strong argument against that.
 

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I always install SP1, April 2015 and April 2016 offline. Before I connect to the internet I install AVAST FREE using an offline installer and immediately update the virus definitions before running windows updates.

During installation of the Windows Updates I tend to disable my LAN and disable anti virus. Unsure if this is extreme or bad practice?
 

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EVGA GTX760 2GB
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Samsung 27 inch 1080p hdmi
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Seagate ST480HM000 SSD (main C drive, )
Samsung Evo 840 Evo 250GB SSD (games drive)
Seagate ST8000AS0002 8TB (media drive)
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Seagate ST2000DM001 2TB (FAILED - Replacing)
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I always install SP1, April 2015 and April 2016 offline. Before I connect to the internet I install AVAST FREE using an offline installer and immediately update the virus definitions before running windows updates.

This is definitely a good practice, although an antivirus does little to help against Windows Updates. They're better against malicious websites instead. And antivirus companies love to let the MS delivered malware into systems.


During installation of the Windows Updates I tend to disable my LAN and disable anti virus. Unsure if this is extreme or bad practice?

I don't think that turning off the LAN has any effect on this. You must have it enabled to download the updates first (unless we're talking about the offline ones, in which case I would say it's a good thing). Disabling antivirus is definitely a bad thing to do, as it still "protects" against other things in the system, and it doesn't interferes in updates anyway.
 

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I don't think that turning off the LAN has any effect on this. You must have it enabled to download the updates first (unless we're talking about the offline ones, in which case I would say it's a good thing). Disabling antivirus is definitely a bad thing to do, as it still "protects" against other things in the system, and it doesn't interferes in updates anyway.
That's good advice. I'll stop disabling the anti-virus during update installation then :) May as well keep the LAN enabled as well then.
 

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Win 7 Ultimate x64
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i7 920 @ 4GHz
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Asus P6T
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Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX760 2GB
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 27 inch 1080p hdmi
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
Seagate ST480HM000 SSD (main C drive, )
Samsung Evo 840 Evo 250GB SSD (games drive)
Seagate ST8000AS0002 8TB (media drive)
Western Digital WD500AAKS Caviar 500GB Blue (backups)
Seagate ST2000DM001 2TB (FAILED - Replacing)
PSU
Antec High Current Pro 850W
Case
Corsair 750D
Cooling
3x Spectre Pro PWM140,NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 IP67 PWM
Keyboard
Zalman ZM-K300M
Mouse
Zalman Z300
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70MB Broadband
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AVAST FREE
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