Computer not even blue screening just restarting

[CraftyWeasel]

So i had another thread here > http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-...mingly-randomly-consistently.html#post1495942

and that fix worked for a while but now my computer has started to crash again and i updated the thread with the new information i had and what i thought of to help find an answer but no one ever came back to my thread so i started a new one i hope that's alright because its very frustrating having my computer restart constantly.

i ran memtest86 and when it ran apparently 7 passes, it came back and gave me over 100 thousand errors before i just exited it since i figured once you have over 100 thousand errors its pretty obvious that means it failed.

my motherboard is: ASRock 890GX PRO3

and my ram is: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

and as far as i can tell they should be compatible, but right now i have a hard time even getting my computer to boot up at all, usually i will turn it on and my screen will just remain black. sometimes itll get past the asrock screen then go black, sometimes it gets to windows and freezes, and sometimes it gets just past user logon then it freezes... i have no idea what to do and would really appreciate any help.

Edit: As of right now i decided to try taking out one of the sticks of ram and see how that goes and i am atleast able to post this thread for help... i dont know if taking out the ram actually did anything but it was all i could think of doing.

 

[MvdB]

It must be RAM as that is the outcome of your memtest.... It is also clear there is no connection with W7 as memtest86 boots on its own...

So it is either faulty sticks or wrong mem timings/voltage... but I see no system specifics so it's impossible to advise on that...

Who built the system?
What BIOS?
What mem timings? Default out of the box?
Ever did any OC-ing?
etc...

 

[CraftyWeasel]

Who built the system? Me.

What BIOS? American Megatrends? not sure if thats what you meant. my bios is updated though just updated maybe a week ago.

What mem timings? Default out of the box? ok im not 100% sure on this but i just read around some other places and found something that checked my timings apparently and this is what i think i got.

DRAM Frequency: 669.6MHz is that what you wanted? and i have never touched much of anything with my computers actual running and operating specifics so they should be default.

Ever did any OC-ing? no not at all.

so far with the 1 stick of ram removed the computer is running fine.

 

[MvdB]

Ok, thx... have you tried if the PC also runs fine with ONLY the other Ramstick in? We need to find out if it is that second stick or something in the mobo..

If that works fine too... try that 1 stick in another ram slot and see what happens...

 

[CraftyWeasel]

ok i put the stick of ram i had removed into the computer into the slot that the stick i was replacing was in, and the computer would not boot up it seemed, so i moved the stick of ram into the other slot, which is where it was before i removed it the first time and now my computer seems to be working fine still.

so for my own personal reference: Stick 1 and stick 2 both in slot 1 and slot 2 respectively, computer will not start/crashes a lot.

stick 1 in in slot 1 and stick 2 removed from slot 2, computer works fine for prolonged period of time.
stick 2 in slot 1 and stick 1 removed entirely, slot 2 empty, computer will not start on first attempt, did not retry.
stick 2 in slot 2 and stick 1 still removed entirely, slot 1 empty, computer working fine for hours now.

any thoughts?

 

[MvdB]

This does not seem logical... I would hope the stick two in slot 1 tryout was a mistake... maybe not put in well or some bad connection.

Given your results,, the logical thing would be that something it messed up in BIOS or MOBO that causes a problem with 8G. As your tests show that both sticks are ok and, in principle, two slots...

So please try your second trial, Stick 2 in slot 1 again?

 

[CraftyWeasel]

ok i put stick 2 in slot 1 and its running fine, i guess it was just a fluke and i didnt put it in right the first time.

As far as I can tell, it appears my computer runs absolutely fine and has no problems as long as only 1 stick of ram is in, regardless of which stick or where i put it, but if i put in 2 sticks of ram it starts crashing and failing to boot up.

 

[CraftyWeasel]

ok i got a crash again with stick 2 in slot 1, i tried running the sims and it crashed my computer... but it did work fine a couple of times just now i connected my computer to my tv with an hdmi cable and it crashed trying to run sims. i dont see how my screen would affect my computer crashing though.

Edit: ok i swapped out stick 2 with stick 1 and put it in slot 1, and stick 1 in slot 1 also ended up crashing on sims 3 during the loading bar at about the same place. So maybe slot 1 is broken? i am testing stick 1 in slot 2 right now.

 

[MvdB]

I suspect there is something wrong in your build... but hard to specify as you have not completely filled in your system specs. Please do so we can help?
Please see third post in this thread: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/8-forum-rules-info-please-read.html

What I need now specifically is your CPU specification.

 

[CraftyWeasel]

Here is a picture of my msinfo32, is this what you wanted?

oh an also heres some bsods i just recently got while playing HoN, i have no idea why they just started occuring again after many days of working fine, and i have not change anything since it was working.

 

[MvdB]

If this exact configuration has been stable for a longer time before the current problems, I can think of only a few reasons why it would mess up now:

1. First build had / found the right timings/voltages and frequency for this combi of mobo and ram. I allways get careful and suspicious when I can't see the MEM Stick in the list of supported ram for the mobo: ASRock > Products > 890GX Pro3 > Memory Support List
Again, apparantly it worked before.. but that might mean special settings + you need to know what you are doing. I am not familiar with this board, so no idea whether the timings and voltages for your RAM (see: G.SKILL-Products ) fit yours and your board.

So.. one option is: default correct settings on first build... and something messed that up. Could be BIOS change/flash/update or an attempt (un)knowingly, to OC.

Again, as memtest does its testing without any W7 help.... it is definately HW and/or BIOS and/or BIOS settings related.

Not to make things hard for you, but I get the feeling you are not really into clocks, voltages etc... so I must come to the conclusion that even IF I'm right in this assessment, you still need to get expert help in a shop or from a knowledgeable friend who can test and check your system hands-on.

 

[CraftyWeasel]

Thank you very much for all your help, I am just glad to know what the problem is so I don't have to keep scouring the web for any bits of information on my problems!

 

[ManOwar2]

When a Computer restart itself with no BSOD, it is usually a Heating problem or a Memory corruption problem.

Try your ram in others machines. Verify your temperatures.

That's the best way to start your investigation, along with all others advice provided before by others great members.

 

[MvdB]

Thank you very much for all your help, I am just glad to know what the problem is so I don't have to keep scouring the web for any bits of information on my problems!

You're welcome. To save you some time please remember what you already know through the testing in this thread:

1. The Ram sticks themselves are/were probably ok. They are not the main problem.
2. If your previous post info is correct, then you have incorrect settings for this ram in this mobo. Theoretically that can blow the sticks. But to be sure...you have to try a combination of mobo and Ram in correct settings first and prove that works.
3. Use the info in my previous post with a local expert to test the combination of mobo, ram stick(s) and their settings.
4. If possible, start testing by using an approved RAM Stick (see second link in previous post) with default timings, frequency and voltage on this mobo.