Connecting Hard drives

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I have an internal controller card, which I have always used to connect optical drives, but from what I just read:

Today, the best way of providing support for up to eight IDE/ATA devices (four channels) is through the addition of one of these PCI-based cards. Doing so allows you the use of four channels, while taking only three IRQs (two by the original motherboard channels and one for the card). Support for the card is provided through a driver provided by the maker of the card. As an additional bonus, these cards usually support the latest Ultra DMA transfer modes, and support for large hard disks as well. If you have an older system, the best way to go is to put the hard disks on the add-in card to get support for high-speed transfers, and then use the motherboard's channels for slower ATAPI devices. And as if that weren't enough, these cards cost under $50!

IDE/ATA Channels and Resource Usage

I'm probably going to change that, and connect the hard drives to it instead...at least two of them, since my controller card only has two connectors. The reason that I'm posting this, is just that I want confirmation that this info is accurate and up to date?
 

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(** = 2nd rig)
I'm probably going to change that, and connect the hard drives to it instead...at least two of them, since my controller card only has two connectors. The reason that I'm posting this, is just that I want confirmation that this info is accurate and up to date?

The information on that page was last updated in 2004. I would not rely on it. Hard drives do not rely on IDE anymore but SATA which function much differently. You do not need to worry about whether you have enough IRQs available or worry about channels, master/slave, or anything like that.

Unless your PC is still running off of all IDE drives. And then it comes down to whether those cards are even made anymore.
 

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VIA 8-channel
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but IDE/ATA includes both IDE and SATA...does it not? In any case, connecting the hard drive to the internal controller did not help. In fact, the performance dropped off a bit, and unlike when I moved the driver to the external case, the internal card connection did not restore SMART data. Those things may be due to the quality of the controller card...don't know.
 

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W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
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Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
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EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
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Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
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Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
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3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
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Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
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SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
ATA is a spec that crosses both IDE interfaces and SATA interfaces.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
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MSI 890FXA-GD70
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G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066
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2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB
Sound Card
VIA 8-channel
Monitor(s) Displays
2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV
Screen Resolution
4480x900
Hard Drives
1x Crucial 64GB SSD
3x 1TB HDDs (WD, Seagate, Hitatchi)
1x 500GB Seagate External
PSU
Kingwin 1000W Modular
Case
Coolermaster HAF 932
Cooling
1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
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Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000
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20mbps
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Samsung BD-ROM/DVD-RW
I've done a little shopping for sata controllers. My experience shows that most of the ones that show IDE/sata are sata 1 connections. Normally, that will not provide the speed you want from a sata controller.
 

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I came across some articles about HighPoint's new hybrid controller card, that is supposed to be able to combine a regular hard drive with and SSD:

HighPoint launches hybrid controller card for SSD and HDD - www.nordichardware.com

On the surface, it sounds good, but since it hasn't actually been released yet, despite that article's speculation about it being released in February, there are a number of questions that I would have before ordering one. For instance, Seagate's hybrid drives are designed in a fashion that causes the hard drive to stop when not needed. It would seem to me, that this would cause faster wear, because of the inertial forces at work, plus the heating/cooling cycles. I'm wondering if the hybrid controller card would do the same?

My interest is simply in terms of flexibility/options, such as either preparing for a future addition of an SSD, or using it to connect two regular hard drives.
 

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W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
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Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
Cooling
3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
Other Info
SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
I have been looking at that Seagate Hybird but still have some questions I haven't been able to find the answers. How do you defrag a hybrid? What is the read/wright speed between the ssd part of the hybrid to hdd part? Are we gaining any thing when we still have to write to a hdd?
 

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I have been looking at that Seagate Hybird but still have some questions I haven't been able to find the answers. How do you defrag a hybrid? What is the read/wright speed between the ssd part of the hybrid to hdd part? Are we gaining any thing when we still have to write to a hdd?

I personally think the SSD/HDD hybrids are more of a marketing gimmick than anything else.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
Motherboard
MSI 890FXA-GD70
Memory
G.SKILL RipJaw 3x2GB DDR3-1066
Graphics Card(s)
2x HIS Radeon HD 6850 1 GB
Sound Card
VIA 8-channel
Monitor(s) Displays
2x 20 inch Acer LCDs, 1x 32" Sony LCD TV
Screen Resolution
4480x900
Hard Drives
1x Crucial 64GB SSD
3x 1TB HDDs (WD, Seagate, Hitatchi)
1x 500GB Seagate External
PSU
Kingwin 1000W Modular
Case
Coolermaster HAF 932
Cooling
1x 120mm, 3x 200mm, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000
Mouse
Microsoft Wiresless Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
20mbps
Other Info
Samsung BD-ROM/DVD-RW
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