continual bsod

[doughheads]

help wanted

hi, i recently purchased and built a new computer with specs:-

-GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3P Motherboard
-i7860 chipset, 4 *Team Xtreem 2GB* 2 DDR3 1600 MHz CL7 LV
-NVIDIA XFX GTS 250 GForce PCI Express 1GB GDDR3 Graphics card

Running WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE and have all current up to date drivers. I continually get 'bsod'errors (see below)

Saturday December 5th, 2009
Sometime in early hours - BSoD
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
STOP 0x0000004E ( 0x00000099, 0x000642E0, 0x00000002, 0x0006472C )

Wednesday December 9th, 2009
Sometime between 16:30 & 18:00
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
*** STOP: 0000004E (0x0000000000000099, 0x000000000010461e, 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000001046d)

Friday December 11th, 2009
Sometime around 19:15
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
*** STOP: 0000001A (0x0000000000005003, 0xFFFFF70001080000, 0x0000000000001C44, 0x00001C4600002888)

Saturday December 12th, 2009
Sometime around 21:23
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
*** STOP: 0000001A (0x0000000000005003, 0xFFFFF70001080000, 0x00000000000a7E4E, 0x00017E4C0002EC9C)

Saturday December 12th, 2009
Sometime around 21:23
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
*** STOP: 0000001A (0x0000000000005003, 0xFFFFF70001080000, 0x0000000000017E4E, 0x00017E4C0002EC9C)

Saturday December 19th, 2009
Sometime around 09:31
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
*** STOP: 0000001A (0x0000000000041287, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)

Sunday December 27th, 2009
Sometime around 11:45
NO ERROR - advised to run diagnostics especially on memory
*** STOP: 0000007F (0x0000000000000008, 0x0000000080050031, 0x00000000000006F8, 0xFFFFF80002CD3173)

Monday December 28th, 2009
Sometime between 19:00 & 20:00
NO ERROR - advised to run diagnostics especially on memory
To Your Computer
Modification of system code or a critical data structure was detected
*** STOP: 0000109F (0xASA039D89DB1578, 0xB3B7465EEE4F3677, 0xFFFFF88001490699, 0x0000000000000001)
ndis.sys - Address FFFFF8800190699 base at FFFFF8800148D000, DateStamp 4a5bc184

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Have run benchtesting software (everest) that maxes out everything and it won't crash the system so unsure why I am getting these random 'bsod'

Sorry for the long post but maybe the extra errors may help somebody identify what my my problem is

Running exact same appications and o/s on an older computer upstairs and no probs

Any help would be appreciated

 

[ickymay]

I suggest remove a pair of RAM sticks and see if the system becomes more stable, run memtest86 overnight and also make sure ALL drivers are fully up to date especially chipset and graphics card, and then please upload the minidump file for the experts here to take a look at, not neccesarily in that order

 

[doughheads]

hi ickymay, thanks for your advice

will run 'memtest86' tonight as suggested and provide feedback tomorrow. have attempted to upload what minidump files i do have but get an error about invalid file, are you able to assist me in how i get them up

currently .dmp - do i just change the extensions and then the gurus change them back

 

[ickymay]

hi ickymay, thanks for your advice

will run 'memtest86' tonight as suggested and provide feedback tomorrow. have attempted to upload what minidump files i do have but get an error about invalid file, are you able to assist me in how i get them up

currently .dmp - do i just change the extensions and then the gurus change them back

ahh yes sorry always forget to mention zip em as the forum doesn't like certain extensions

 

[doughheads]

memtest86 run, drivers sweet, .dmp files upload

ok, drivers are all sweet according to DRIVERROBOT

Run 'memtest86'version 3.4 (advised running over 4gig of RAM) overnight all night. It completed 2 passes and was 30% into the 3rd pass this morning. Tell me:-

'Pass complete, no errors, press ESC to exit'

I have written down all the values on the screen before pushing escape so would you like these or is there some sort of dump I can also upload here for you.

I am now uploading the .dmp files for you to look at.

Thanks again

 

[matt_0978]

if all your hardware checks out another option is virtual driver software, some virus scanners will install a heuristics driver for instance, or some disc recording software may install a virtual disc drive (image drive).

 

[ickymay]

ok, drivers are all sweet according to DRIVERROBOT

Run 'memtest86'version 3.4 (advised running over 4gig of RAM) overnight all night. It completed 2 passes and was 30% into the 3rd pass this morning. Tell me:-

'Pass complete, no errors, press ESC to exit'

I have written down all the values on the screen before pushing escape so would you like these or is there some sort of dump I can also upload here for you.

I am now uploading the .dmp files for you to look at.

Thanks again

these dump files are old do you have any from the last few days ?

all these references are for memory management and PFN_LIST_CORRUPT which is (Page Frame Number list or PFN) so although it tested ok I would still be looking for the problem with memory, can I suggest you remove the ram and make sure the slots are clean then replace just one pair and run the system for a while to see how it behaves ?

 

[ickymay]

another couple of question's is are you overclocking and do you get a bluescreen crash when in safe mode ?

 

[doughheads]

no more recent .dmp files sorry. i am unsure why. i have my bsod setting to freeze (not reboot auto) so i can jot down the errors. the past few errors (which are in my original post) haven't given an error message (heading) such as the PFN_LIST_CORRUPT & MEMORY_MANAGEMENT and although it says it is doing a dump no files are being dumped. I always collect any dumps and put them in another folder so they can't be written over

in relation to the latest question, no i am not overclocky, haven't tried running in safe mode as my bsod are so infrequent running in safe mode for such long periods would hinder my usability (drivers, internet, etc), would it not

will attempt cleaning slots and running only 2 sticks of RAM at a time

 

[ickymay]

well if cleaning reseating and replacing to run with less RAM doesn't solve anything then we need safe mode running well to prove it's drivers

at this point you will then need all boxes ticked except for "auto reboot" in "system recovery" so we can examine the full minidump file and attempt to find which driver(s) is causing the crashes

if you want to be able to look through your mindump files you can use blue screen viewer

have you taken a look through event viewer to match an event to a crash ?

 

[doughheads]

haven't looked at event viewer recently ickymay

i initially got 2*2g ram then a month later the other 2. the bsod happened straight away so upon building so i have taken the initial 2 out and am now only running the latest 2. as my bsod only happen about 1 or twice a week we may not see another occurence for a week or more

failing this i will attempt the SAFE MODE suggested

failing this i will await your next trouble shooting advise

thanks so much for all help to this point

NOTE: i had been having major problems with a BLUETOOTH LOGITECH MX5500 Keyboard and Mouse upon initial install of WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE (worked fine with the RC release). It would run fine for a the 1st day or so then become very unresponsive. I did a few re-installs (as my drivers were current) which always fixed the problem for a day or so then became unresponsive (or very slow) once again after about a day

i have no reverted back to an old USB mouse, but am still using the BLUETOOTH Keyboard. Been reading some other posts that have a mouse causing some BSOD. I suppose we can't blame this as we don't have .dmp files to see that and also I have reverted back to a USB mouse that is running like a dream

any suggestions on this front

 

[doughheads]

ps > setting is on 'kernal memory dump'

should it be on the other option 'small memory dump'

 

[ickymay]

ps > setting is on 'kernal memory dump'

should it be on the other option 'small memory dump'

yes set to small memory dump and one of the reasons I was asking for a current minidump was i noticed on your ones you uploaded there are two logitech drivers

LHidFilt.Sys fffff880`0802d000 fffff880`08040000 0x00013000 0x46f3a583 21/09/2007 11:05:39
LMouFilt.Sys fffff880`08967000 fffff880`0897a000 0x00013000 0x46f3a587 21/09/2007 11:05:43

from 2007 :huh: that might or might not be significant

 

[doughheads]

i have a logitech webcam also which uses a different driver to the mx5500 keyboard/mouse

i have uninstalled the keyboard/mouse one

 

[doughheads]

no crashes since removing initial 2 sticks of RAM bought and running with 2nd lot

will give another week or so and if no crashes will put my initial RAM in with the other slots and see if this cause my crash problem to come back

if not maybe just blowing out the RAM slots may have been the cause

thanks for your help to this point ickymay

 

[ickymay]

no crashes since removing initial 2 sticks of RAM bought and running with 2nd lot

will give another week or so and if no crashes will put my initial RAM in with the other slots and see if this cause my crash problem to come back

if not maybe just blowing out the RAM slots may have been the cause

thanks for your help to this point ickymay

having built PC's for many years I had really hoped that RAM mismatches would have stopped being an issue with SDRAM but unfortunately some hardware issues never seem to change

let's hope in your case it's dirty slots but I wouldn't hold your breath , do you know the exact spec and time you bought the different sticks or pairs of ram ?