Solved CPUID showing weird jumps ?

[ThrashZone]

Okay I thought this was weird
Very weird fluctuations in readings going on every few seconds :/
Is this normal
I believe the bios is set to default and the mode at Normal instead of power saver or OC...
This is on a new install of win-7 Pro which I do not remember if this was happening on the original 7 home premium install which I also clean installed it too last week
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[ThrashZone]

Here's another with the new version
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[unrealRage]

I know if you enable AMD Cool 'N' Quiet feature in BIOS it will actually throttle CPU and it will perform same like yours - frequency jumps.And seeing that your voltage drops I would say it is probably Dynamic frequency scaling.That's pretty normal.

Check if you enabled similar feature on your motherboard.

AMD Cool 'N' Quiet also causes stutters in games so that might be a clue if you have similar feature ON.

Also try running prime95 or similar software and monitor freq and voltage,prime95 will make cpu load 100% and freq/voltage jumps should not occur.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks I switched to asus optimal and it was pretty close on the lower reading just a tad higher but the jump was a lot more,
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I checked on home premium and I did have some net frame work updates
Before loading them everything was pretty stable at the prior high reading in post 1 or 2
So these net frame work updates did something :/
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[unrealRage]

Hmm.
I find this pretty normal.
Anyway;do you have any power saving mode on?Do this jumps impact on your systems performance.
I highly suggest you do prime95 test.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks here's the options I do see
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[unrealRage]

Disable Intel speedstep technology - basically when there's no need for high cpu freq ,it will downclock it to save you power and reduce heat,with this disabled cpu speed will always be on same value.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thank again
I have no idea what Prime 95 is but I'll try out disabling the enhanced feature I just find the jumping very weird I was really wondering if Steve sees the same jumping or what he has things set at we both have asus boards and the same cpu

 

[unrealRage]

Thank again
I have no idea what Prime 95 is but I'll try out disabling the enhanced feature I just find the jumping very weird I was really wondering if Steve sees the same jumping or what he has things set at we both have asus boards and the same cpu

Oh,Prime95 is cpu stress-testing software.It very useful for check overclocks or cpu stability.
I suggested it because it should keep your freq at max because load is max (100%).If you would see freq drops then something might be wrong.

PS.
I'm glad I could help.

 

[ThrashZone]

Okay I see what the issue was seems to be just the performance power plan in windows making it jump like that
I switch to balanced and everything stabilizes to the minimum readings of all prior screen shots +-..
Very strange a performance power plan would allow spikes like that instead of just hitting the high and staying there :/

 

[Callender]

Well I don't know much about this subject but if you've just installed .NET Framework updates you might be surprised to know that some stuff runs in the backgound after applying those updates and it can take up to a few days for changes to be made and for things to settle down. I know this because I have a real time executable file monitor that notifies whenever an executable (of any type) is modifies, created or deleted. I see a lot of activity taking place after .NET Framework updates.

Wondering why mscorsvw.exe has high CPU usage? You can speed it up. - .NET Blog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

Suggest: Check to see if mscorsvw.exe is running. If so - just leave it.

 

[unrealRage]

Okay I see what the issue was seems to be just the performance power plan in windows making it jump like that
I switch to balanced and everything stabilizes to the minimum readings of all prior screen shots +-..
Very strange a performance power plan would allow spikes like that instead of just hitting the high and staying there :/

Wow,very strange indeed.
Maybe some of it's settings is causing that.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks Callender that was spot on

I'm guessing the balanced power plan put it in check for a little while

The performance power plan did show minimum processor usage at 100% that was one of the suggestion to change it to or see what it states there and on a balanced power plan it's set at 5% by default.
So that was a little bit of an education there

My Acer board/ power plan has always been on balanced it was only the asus build and install have I switched to performance "that and messing with win-10" I got into the habit of using a performance power plan because of it's new fast start crapware going into hibernation instead of shutting the heck down like a normal os :mad2:

 

[Callender]

Great. Personally after .NET Framework updates I leave my machine switched on overnight so that all the work gets done when I'n not using the machine. Those spikes probably occur more often if you leave the machine alone for a while.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yep well on the pro install the spikes were the power plan causing it the updates were loaded more than a week ago :/
I just caught the process running when you posted about it

Kind of makes me wonder what the heck installing updates does if these net framework updates take so long to do :/
Just install the darn things

 

[ThrashZone]

Found this on an old thread

I'm a little surprised at the arguments given. The high performance power plan ramps up clock speed to the max and keeps it at max all the time irrespective of cpu load. But thats about clock speed, what does it have to do with cpu load? CPU load will vary depending on what you're doing- if you're number crunching/ photoshopping etc. it'll be high, if you're just posting in SF, it'll be slow.

Unless the OP's doing cpu intensive jobs all day, the cpu usage as seen in the task manager should come down irrespective of the power plan, once the job is over. In fact with the high performance plan, jobs should get executed more quickly so the cpu usage should be low most of the time.

I would suspect a software/driver conflict in this case, you can do some intelligent detective work or run a clean boot procedure to determine the culprits. While you're at it, also run a malware scan with malwarebytes.

 

[essenbe]

Mike, set the power plan to high performance. Then go to Advanced power settings and set the max CPU to 100% and the Minimum CPU to 5 %. Do not disable Intel Speedstep. That allows your CPU to downclock if there is no stress on the CPU. You should be about 1200 MHz at idle on the desktop, and it will jump to the max frequency when you put stress on the CPU. The high performance, which you want when needed, sets your frequency to max. But you don't want that at idle on the desktop. So, alter the settings of Min/Max CPU frequency.

Don't be alarmed when after startup the frequency stays at max for a while. It will for several minutes until everything starts up and gets running. After a few minutes it will downclock. Mine has taken 5-10 minutes on some occasions. It just depends on what is going on in the background.

 

[unrealRage]

Yeah you should enable Intel Speedstep ,because of it's DFS,and since your processors is acting normal -by disabling it you will make sure that clocks stay at max values, and that your cpu is fine.
If you feel any laggy performance Speedstep might be causing it.

If you're overclocking your cpu then you should turn it off util you finished finding perfect clock and voltage -and of course stressing.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thanks Steve
I did indeed re-enable speed stepping it didn't do anything anyway.

Yep performance power plan minimum processor setting is 100% already so nothing to change there Oops you're saying to lower the minimum :/ okay gotcha
The spikes were just I thought odd but does seem to be normal from what I've read so I'll stop looking at it
Appreciate the input the old thread I found pretty much described what's going on pretty well
Thanks Bill2