Crash after reinstall Aspire 5003wlmi

[gregrocker]

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BSOD after upgrading Aspire 5003wlmi from XP to Win7.

sysgrv.dll is the XP display driver. It would not run the SIS UniVGA3 XP display driver in Compat mode but could browse from Dev Mgr into its file to successfully install Display driver which ran for awhile with good res and Sleep. Can't use Standard VGA because of display jitters.

Others have been able to install and run the XP display driver in Compat mode but when I run confirmed installer in XP sp2 mode it gives this error every time: View attachment 301149
Is there a way to install sysgrv.dll in Compat Mode from Dev Mgr?

Also added 1 gb RAM matching manufacturer's specs and results on Corsair RAMfinder: Amazon.com : Corsair 1GB (1x1GB) DDR 333 MHz (PC 2700) Laptop Memory (VS1GSDS333) : Laptop Computer Internal Memory : Electronics

No further crashes after streaming full screen videos with high res which is suprisingly good for this old beater, not a single lag. But can it be trusted to give back to owner?

 

[matts6887]

Well greg; im sorta kinda taking a shot in the dark here on this one; but from a few different places where I see pnp driver not found in the event log; apparently it looks to me as if windows 7 does not want to detect the proper drivers for some reason(plug n play drivers). In which case it seems like you may have to try and go to acer's site and have a look around for some drivers and see if ya can fix it doing that.

 

[Golden]

kd> lmvm SiSGRV
start    end        module name
890c0000 891e9000   SiSGRV   T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: SiSGRV.dll
    Image path: \SystemRoot\System32\[COLOR="red"][B]SiSGRV.dll[/B][/COLOR]
    Image name: SiSGRV.dll
    Timestamp:        [COLOR="Red"][B]Wed Mar 02 02:17:32 2005[/B][/COLOR] (42248E94)
    CheckSum:         000DF92B
    ImageSize:        00129000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4

That is one really old driver. What happens if you clean it out and let Windows Update install its own certified driver?

 

[gregrocker]

Installer gave Standard VGA with no Sleep, wavy lines at any resolution. Updates has nothing newer.

Past solutions for this were installing in Compat Mode. I did a test install on this machine awhile back to a partition and it installed in XP 2 Compat Mode with no crashes.

Now it won't install in Compat mode without the pictured error. I can only browse into the XP driver file from Dev Mgr which pics it up and installs, but clearly caused the BSOD (which hasn't repeated).

 

[YoYo155]

I think you might be out of luck with that upgrade unfortunately Greg .

STOP 0x1000008E: KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M

Usual causes: Insufficient disk space, Device driver, Video card, BIOS,
Breakpoint in startup without having a debugger attached, Hardware incompatibility,
Faulty system service, 3rd party remote control, Memory

I can see that the bugcheck occurred while running WinSAT.exe (Windows System Assessment Tool),
can you recall which particular stage was it in (what was it testing)?

As Colin stated above the driver is very old and SiS hasn't released an updated version
to support the newer OS's later than XP.

Adapter Description    SiS M760GX

lmvm sisgrp
Browse full module list
start    end        module name
8de42000 8de81000   sisgrp     (deferred)             
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\sisgrp.sys
    Image name: sisgrp.sys
    Browse all global symbols  functions  data
    Timestamp:        [U][COLOR=Red]Tue Mar 01 18:09:02 2005[/COLOR][/U]

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You can try the modified version from 2010 and try running WinSAT again, although I wouldn't get my hopes up.

• http://w3.sis.com/download/index.php

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Other active drivers -

lmvm bcmwl6
Browse full module list
start    end        module name
93a0b000 93c72000   bcmwl6   T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: bcmwl6.sys
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bcmwl6.sys
    Image name: bcmwl6.sys
    Browse all global symbols  functions  data
    Timestamp:        [COLOR=Red][U]Wed Jul 08 03:44:47 2009[/U][/COLOR]

lmvm RTKVAC
Browse full module list
start    end        module name
8e605000 8e9fe200   RTKVAC   T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: RTKVAC.SYS
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\RTKVAC.SYS
    Image name: RTKVAC.SYS
    Browse all global symbols  functions  data
    Timestamp:        [COLOR=Red][U]Thu Jun 18 22:36:37 2009[/U][/COLOR]

• Driver Reference Table - bcmwl6.sys
• Driver Reference Table - RTKVAC.SYS

 

[gregrocker]

Thanks, Yo.

Streaming Youtube video at full screen highest resolution 1280 x 800 for a half hour with perfect picture and less lag than on my new HP laptop would not suffice as a stress test?

 

[YoYo155]

Thanks, Yo.

Streaming Youtube video at full screen highest resolution 1280 x 800 for a half hour with perfect picture and less lag than on my new HP laptop would not suffice as a stress test? Can I run WEI or does it need to be WinSAT?

It would seem to be, but for some reason while I was overclocking my GPU it would bugcheck only
under WEI (I believe it invokes WinSAT) and not under any stress tests the same goes for my
CPU I would get a WHEA event logged when running the WEI test and not others.

 

[gregrocker]

I realize its not a benchmark but WEI was 3.5 with highest score for Display. Said it has new hardware detected which might be the SiS driver. After I run it again the score is 1 attributable to Gaming Graphics. But it didn't crash. Any other stress tests for this?

 

[YoYo155]

Can you please check which version is currently being used?

I am sure you don't need to be walked through as how to verify I'm simply posting
for possible future readers .

The way to verify it's date of creation rather then the date it was installed on the PC is to navigate
to C:\Windows\System32\drivers, right clicking the driver choosing Properties
and looking at the Date modified under the Details tab.

   Note

This is just an example using an nVidia driver.

About the 2nd screenshot, do you have (or have had at the time)
any external storage / flash drive connected?

 

[gregrocker]

Yes I had a Kingston flash stick plugged in at the time.

I think you want the SiS driver Details? Stand by.

 

[YoYo155]

Too new?

I meant sisgrp.sys .

 

[gregrocker]

Way too old?

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What about Compat Mode which just stopped working for no reason on this driver, after it had worked previously? Can some of the display settings on the Compat Mode utility be used?

 

[YoYo155]

Way too old?

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What about Compat Mode which just stopped working for no reason on this driver, after it had worked previously? Can some of the display settings on the Compat Mode utility be used?

Pretty darn old.

About Compat Mode, what C++ redis. are installed on the system?

 

[gregrocker]

Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable

 

[YoYo155]

I have these installed (exclude the x64 for the machine in question obviously).
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[gregrocker]

Will 2010 catch me up with the prior versions?

Does Compat Mode depend upon C++?

Thanks Yo! You're a real pro. I learn a lot from our BSOD analysts who are the best in the world.

 

[Arc]

Greg my respected friend, it appears to be an ancient machine. Simply no necessary driver updates are available with Acer.

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The drivers which are must to update are .....

• Silicon Integrated Systems VGA: c:\windows\system32\drivers\sisgrp.sys (I doubt that they continue with windows 7)
• Broadcom Wifi: c:\windows\system32\drivers\bcmwl6.sys (no updates are available with Broadcom too)
• AC'97 Audio Codecs: c:\windows\system32\drivers\rtkvac.sys

I can find one only ...... the audio driver. Realtek

I guess a GPU and a Wifi card will do all the job.
__________________________________________________________________________________

    Image name: sisgrp.sys
    Timestamp:        Tue Mar 01 21:39:02 2005 (4224939E)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Image name: RTKVAC.SYS
    Timestamp:        Fri Jun 19 01:06:37 2009 (4A3A9745)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Image name: bcmwl6.sys
    Timestamp:        Wed Jul 08 06:14:47 2009 (4A53EBFF)

 

[gregrocker]

Strange I've been using it all day and except for one time I came back to find the BSOD in OP, it has performed swimmingly with only the 1.5 gb RAM upgrade and all the old hardware/drivers.

I watched streaming video which was sharper and lagged less than a new HP 17" I have here.

It is a clunker but it's rock solid so if I can find away to be reasonably certain there won't be regular BSOD's I think the owners who were ready to pitch it will be happy with it.

 

[Arc]

It is a clunker but it's rock solid so if I can find away to be reasonably certain there won't be regular BSOD's I think the owners who were ready to pitch it will be happy with it.

Yes, a single BSOD may always be considered as only a glitch. Until an unless it is recurring, there is no real necessity to take that BSOD seriously.

 

[gregrocker]

Beyond using it all weekend and streaming movies is there any stress test I can run which would likely reproduce the BSOD if it's prone to happen again?

I have an equally old Dell Dimension here now I upgraded to 2gb RAM which is slow, but this one is fast with just 1.5 gb RAM.

I have a pile of laptops and desktops piled up on a table that neighbors and friends have brought by for me on my return to Florida. Have had to cut 7F time in half. But I'll have a pocketful of Red Lobster and Outback gift cards if I can get through them.