Creating Restore Point and Monthly Patches now take a long time

I DO NOT have Norton installed. My AV is MS Security Essentials.

Ok it was just that you posted this I was just wondering if the seller had bundled Norton with machine- thats all.
I was looking around for some info on this issue I'm having and found this article:
Important Changes for Windows Updates Coming in February 2017 | Norton Community
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
My RAM is 3 GB and my virtual memory is 3063 MB. Leave it alone, or up the VM?
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x641.86 GHz Intrel Core 23 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHzIntel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
refurb in an HP/Compaq case
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.86 GHz Intrel Core 2
Motherboard
HP 0A60h XU1
Memory
3 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell CRT
Hard Drives
977GB Samsung HD 103 SI ATA
Case
HP Compaq DC5800
Mouse
wired optical
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, Spyware Blaster
Browser
Firefox 32-bit
I am happy to report that today download an install of the 3 monthly patches took less than 30 minutes.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x641.86 GHz Intrel Core 23 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHzIntel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
refurb in an HP/Compaq case
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.86 GHz Intrel Core 2
Motherboard
HP 0A60h XU1
Memory
3 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell CRT
Hard Drives
977GB Samsung HD 103 SI ATA
Case
HP Compaq DC5800
Mouse
wired optical
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, Spyware Blaster
Browser
Firefox 32-bit
Well that's good to hear and the RAM well it is a matter of choice really and you are using two channels anyway - but if it were me I would go 4GB because you are running a 64bit system and more RAM is always better than the minimum.

The choice and budget is yours of course but here are some memory sticks that would suit your machine
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model VS4GBKIT667D2 G-Newegg.com

Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) ECC Fully Buffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR667D2D8F5K2/4G - Newegg.com

I prefer Corsair over Crucial but either is still good and these are the best of a short search I did.
Now getting them in this fashion means that you will have a "matched pair" of sticks in your machine that in itself is so much better then having sticks that are different brands and come from different manufacturing batches. Plus the prices on these are really very reasonable.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I finally figured how to get inside my HP Compaq desktop. There a small recessed button that's the same silvery color as the top panel located front and center on the top. Press that down and the top slides back. Actually for being in a REALLY dusty home for 5 years and a few months and never having been opened since acquisition, it didn't seem that bad. I had a upright desktop previously (running Windows XP) and when I opened THAT one up after I had it about a year, there were cobwebs like Spanish moss and a dead moth inside the case.
 

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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x641.86 GHz Intrel Core 23 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHzIntel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
refurb in an HP/Compaq case
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.86 GHz Intrel Core 2
Motherboard
HP 0A60h XU1
Memory
3 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell CRT
Hard Drives
977GB Samsung HD 103 SI ATA
Case
HP Compaq DC5800
Mouse
wired optical
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, Spyware Blaster
Browser
Firefox 32-bit
Ok now I have attached a pic of the part that is probably very dusty can you remove that "cover" and have a look because it looks the same as some older Lenovo setups I have taken apart.

While you know how to get the side panel off now it would be easy for you to get more RAM into that machine because as I said before 3GB running Ultimate is really asking a lot of the RAM you have installed there.

Now if you do decide to up the RAM it is best to get it in matched pairs but as I don't know what speed RAM you have I cannot link you to some good sticks as I am also assuming the board will only support 4GB anyway.

But I am very curios as to what is under that cover.
 

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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I appreciate your curiosity, but I am dubious about too much fiddling with the innards when I don't know what I am doing. I may end up in a worse situation.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x641.86 GHz Intrel Core 23 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHzIntel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
refurb in an HP/Compaq case
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.86 GHz Intrel Core 2
Motherboard
HP 0A60h XU1
Memory
3 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell CRT
Hard Drives
977GB Samsung HD 103 SI ATA
Case
HP Compaq DC5800
Mouse
wired optical
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, Spyware Blaster
Browser
Firefox 32-bit
Windows 7 ultimate does not need any more memory to run than any other version, I've had it running on multiple systems with 2GB RAM without any issues, I've even had it running on a 10" netbook with 1GB of RAM 3 GB is perfectly usable
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RPIntel I7 10750H 5.0GHz32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHznVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
I appreciate your curiosity, but I am dubious about too much fiddling with the innards when I don't know what I am doing. I may end up in a worse situation.

Ok I will leave it at that then:)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
May's monthly patches took 70 minutes to download and install. With the June ones coming out next week, I am not looking forward to it.
 

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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x641.86 GHz Intrel Core 23 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHzIntel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
refurb in an HP/Compaq case
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.86 GHz Intrel Core 2
Motherboard
HP 0A60h XU1
Memory
3 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell CRT
Hard Drives
977GB Samsung HD 103 SI ATA
Case
HP Compaq DC5800
Mouse
wired optical
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, Spyware Blaster
Browser
Firefox 32-bit
May's monthly patches took 70 minutes to download and install. With the June ones coming out next week, I am not looking forward to it.
Yes you and me alike as I have a had hell descend on me and I think the updates are to blame.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x641.86 GHz Intrel Core 23 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHzIntel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
refurb in an HP/Compaq case
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
1.86 GHz Intrel Core 2
Motherboard
HP 0A60h XU1
Memory
3 GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 3.32 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Q965/Q963 Express chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell CRT
Hard Drives
977GB Samsung HD 103 SI ATA
Case
HP Compaq DC5800
Mouse
wired optical
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials, MalwareBytes, Spyware Blaster
Browser
Firefox 32-bit
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