Does the Windows need to anti-virus?

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Hello all,

While Windows itself has some defending tools like Windows Defender, does it need to anti-virus nevertheless?
If yes, why?

Thanks.
 

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:rolleyes:
 

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Yes because if for no other reason,its better to be safe than sorry. If you never browse or download anything then you might be "safe" but why take the chance?

Windows defender is, while very good, totally REactive and not proactive.
 

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Yes because Defender is nothing but a useless piece of software. I use Avast Internet Security but their free version is good.
 

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OK guys. So definitely Microsoft knows (for example) Windows defender is almost useless (in your point of view), so why again puts it into Windows 7? For collecting the criticisms against itself for example?
 

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MS bundles this in to help reduce the spread of viruses. Microsoft Security Essentials is a free AV that combines the functions of Defender with active scanning & an AV engine. If you opt to d/l MSE, it will by default, disable Defender, so don't panic if after installation you see Defender disabled.

Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows
 

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Thank you borg. I learned almost all thing about my problem except one thing. What means that the Windows defender is not proactive (i.e., is not active)?
 

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The last time I used Defender (a couple years back), it was an on demand scanner, meaning you had to click on it to scan. MSE constantly runs in the background monitoring your system (Real time protection) & takes action the minute something malicious is detected. Defender may not catch it until you run a scan & by then you may have more then just one virus.

You can have a look at this thread to weigh the cons/pros of various AV's

http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/72070-whats-best-anti-virus.html
 

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Dell Hell oh Well
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Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
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Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz
Memory
Not much with my ADHD
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Monitor(s) Displays
24" HDTV/Monitor
Screen Resolution
Blurry after a Scotch or 2
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1 HDD 250 GB, 1 HDD 1 TB, 3 - 1 TB Externals
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Don't get on my case...man :D
Cooling
I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi
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Saitek Cyborg
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10 yr old MS optical mouse that still works
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Never fast enough
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Various
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Various

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Hell oh Well
OS
Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz
Memory
Not much with my ADHD
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Monitor(s) Displays
24" HDTV/Monitor
Screen Resolution
Blurry after a Scotch or 2
Hard Drives
1 HDD 250 GB, 1 HDD 1 TB, 3 - 1 TB Externals
Case
Don't get on my case...man :D
Cooling
I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Mouse
10 yr old MS optical mouse that still works
Internet Speed
Never fast enough
Antivirus
Various
Browser
Various
MS bundles this in to help reduce the spread of viruses. Microsoft Security Essentials is a free AV that combines the functions of Defender with active scanning & an AV engine. If you opt to d/l MSE, it will by default, disable Defender, so don't panic if after installation you see Defender disabled.

Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows

To me using MSE is akin to having the fox guard the hen house.:cool:
 

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EVGA GTX 750Ti
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LG E2341 23 Inch
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1920x1080
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700 Watt
Case
Haf 912
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK710
Mouse
Logitech M705
Internet Speed
Cable
Antivirus
AIS 2015 .10.0.2225
Browser
Firefox 49
Other Info
MalwareBytes Anti-Rootkit utility
@gary:

Although MSE & Malwarbytes are very good goods. But My AV is the always updated, Kaspersky Internet Security 2013.
Thanks guys.
 

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