Doing a Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version

[gregrocker]

So basically if I own Windows Vista and own the upgrade I can skirt around installing Vista and just do it with Windows 7? If so this would be awesome. It's legit?

Yes, the workaround is here:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html

or

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

It is the same one given out by MS tech support.

 

[Symz]

Great, thx for the reply.

 

[Symz]

1 more question. Am I getting any less of an OS by simply using the upgrade disc only? It may seem like a dumb question.

 

[gregrocker]

It is the exact same installer as the full retail version. Only the key controls what version you get.

When you get it up and running to your satisfaction, use Win7 backup imaging to create a backup image which you store externally and you will never have to reinstall again, just reimage your HDD (or a replacement) in 15 minutes flawlessly.

 

[Symz]

I'm currently running the Win 7 beta build 7100, do I really need to do a fresh install from a beta build? It already feels like I have Win 7 (with the exception of my big ol' Linksys router bug in this build)

I meant to also say that I did want the retail for the support etc, I just wish I could 'update' what I've got on my machine instead of a fresh install?

 

[gregrocker]

Yes, especially with the 7100RC it needs a clean install because there were tons of monitoring software taken off by MS.

Boot from the Win7 installer, use Custom>Advanced tools to wipe the drive and clean install. The installer will allow an Upgrade when it scans and sees the RC at bootup.

 

[Zidane24]

I'm currently running the Win 7 beta build 7100, do I really need to do a fresh install from a beta build? It already feels like I have Win 7 (with the exception of my big ol' Linksys router bug in this build)

I meant to also say that I did want the retail for the support etc, I just wish I could 'update' what I've got on my machine instead of a fresh install?

It isn't ever reccomended to perform an upgrade...especially if you are upgrading a BETA version to a RETAIL version

 

[Symz]

Ok guys thanks, I'll be trying this out in about ~10 mins.

 

[schichtl86]

uninstall windows 7 then clean install windows 7

Ive had some issues after my windows 7 install because of my own incompetence most likely. Ive been looking around for rememdies and a clean install seems to be the way to go. I had windows vista 64 bit and upgraged to windows 7 64 bit. How do i uninstall windows 7 then do a clean install from there. My windows 7 is an upgrade version. I still have my vista copy of windows. Any help will be much appreciated
Thank you
Jake

 

[Darryl Licht]

You should have no problems, any of the methods in our tutorial here work:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html?filter
just boot from the upgrade DVD, enter custom setup... format the HDD and continue install afterwards. Of course assuming that you have backed up your data first.

If you havent backed up yet, read our tutorial on using EZ Transfer:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11470-windows-easy-transfer-transfer-computers.html?filter

 

[Gilly Boy]

Please try this fix when doing a clean install using an upgrade DVD:

Start > Run > Regedit

"HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\OOBE\MediaBootInstall" = "0" (DWORD)
Note: Dword value is one. Change it to Zero

Open an Elevated Command Prompt (Command Prompt as administraor)

Type cd \windows\system32

Hit Enter

Type cscript.exe slmgr.vbs –rearm

Hit Enter

Reboot

Attempt to activate using the same product key

 

[Darryl Licht]

Welcome to seven forums Gilly Boy!

Here is the forum tutorial on performing a clean install with an upgrade dvd... http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...on.html?filter

There are several ways to accomplish this!

Oh yes, please fill in your system specs on the User CP.

 

[neely615]

I just downloaded the iso and made a DVD
ISO Downloads and Fixes for Windows 7 Student Download - Upgrade - Lifehacker
then installed and registered my upgrade after the install (versus during the install). of course I had a valid version beforehand, but still did a clean install.

 

[Maxkhoon]

Upgrading from Windows Vista to Windows 7 (custom installation) - Help & How-to - Microsoft Windows

can this official website guide me through the window 7 clean installation=custom installation?
mine current conditions is

HAD AN UPGRADE DISC
OS IS WINDOW VISTA 64 HOME PREMIUM

I prefer a clean install as the experts said there're the best way and the only way to go. -->CLEAN INSTALL
thanks again.

 

[gregrocker]

Upgrading from Windows Vista to Windows 7 (custom installation) - Help & How-to - Microsoft Windows

can this official website guide me through the window 7 clean installation=custom installation?
mine current conditions is

HAD AN UPGRADE DISC
OS IS WINDOW VISTA 64 HOME PREMIUM

I prefer a clean install as the experts said there're the best way and the only way to go. -->CLEAN INSTALL
thanks again.

Yes, everything is covered there.

Boot from the installer, it will scan the hard drive to see the qualifying Vista, then use Custom>Advanced tools to wipe and format the Hard Drive for the cleanest possible install.

Make sure your files are backed up and program disks ready as there will be nothing saved, not even the windows.old file if you format the HDD.

 

[Maxkhoon]

Upgrading from Windows Vista to Windows 7 (custom installation) - Help & How-to - Microsoft Windows

can this official website guide me through the window 7 clean installation=custom installation?
mine current conditions is

HAD AN UPGRADE DISC
OS IS WINDOW VISTA 64 HOME PREMIUM

I prefer a clean install as the experts said there're the best way and the only way to go. -->CLEAN INSTALL
thanks again.

Yes, everything is covered there.

Boot from the installer, it will scan the hard drive to see the qualifying Vista, then use Custom>Advanced tools to wipe and format the Hard Drive for the cleanest possible install.

Make sure your files are backed up and program disks ready as there will be nothing saved, not even the windows.old file if you format the HDD.

thank you very much.
but my laptop comes with a partition named RECOVERY(D), should that be delete as well by the advance tool?

 

[gregrocker]

Upgrading from Windows Vista to Windows 7 (custom installation) - Help & How-to - Microsoft Windows

can this official website guide me through the window 7 clean installation=custom installation?
mine current conditions is

HAD AN UPGRADE DISC
OS IS WINDOW VISTA 64 HOME PREMIUM

I prefer a clean install as the experts said there're the best way and the only way to go. -->CLEAN INSTALL
thanks again.

Yes, everything is covered there.

Boot from the installer, it will scan the hard drive to see the qualifying Vista, then use Custom>Advanced tools to wipe and format the Hard Drive for the cleanest possible install.

Make sure your files are backed up and program disks ready as there will be nothing saved, not even the windows.old file if you format the HDD.

thank you very much.
but my laptop comes with a partition named RECOVERY(D), should that be delete as well by the advance tool?

Most of theose recov partitions are not usable after installing a new OS. Consider making the recovery disks first so that you would have a way to reinstall Vista, then you can delete that partition safely as it is recreated by the recov disks.

Usually your tech support will provide those disks for just shipping cost; a new Acer within 90 days will send them free. Or you can wait until you would need to reinsdtall Vista anyway, which you wiill really never need to do unless you want to restore the machine to factory state for resale, or to get hardware serviced under warranty in rare cases.

A borrowed standard Vista install disk (not recovery) will also replace the Vista and auto-activate from the license on that machine.

All of this is moot if you create a Windows 7 backup image so that neither OS needs to be resinstalled ever again, just reimage your HDD or a replacement from backup in 15 minutes. Win7 Backup brings imaging to the masses for the first time.

 

[zrtom]

thank you very much.
but my laptop comes with a partition named RECOVERY(D), should that be delete as well by the advance tool?

You should fill in your system specs. If your computer is a Dell, you can always restore the Vista installation image as long as the D:\RECOVERY partition is still there. The partition does no harm and can restore your system the way it came from the Factory in minutes in case of warranty issues or other hardware troubleshooting.

You can boot from your Vista install disk, go to the command prompt, browse to D:\Tools and type "PCRestore" (without the quotes). Sometimes that doesn't work but you can always restore the Dell (assuming, again, that it's a Dell) Factory Image by booting the Vista disk again, going to the command prompt and typing:
imagex /apply D:\Dell\Image\Factory.wim 1 c:

Installing Windows 7 in no way removes the functionality of restoring the factory image; it is a Windows .wim image file and can always be restored to factory shipped condition by using imagex.exe

Here's some links to Dell Support and the Dell Community Forums where one of my posts is a "Verified Answer" and describes the different ways of performing the Dell Factory Image Restore.

Dell Media Direct 3.5 Install and want to make 4 partitions - DELL COMMUNITY (lists step-by-step restore procedures)
Dell - Support
Dell - Support

 

[desichap]

Hi,

would you be able to direct Me to get some 2 files cmdshell.cmd & FacImg.exe or can you upload it somewhere? I've rest of files shipped with My system but I'm missing these 2 files to create My own image.

your help would be highly appreciated!

Thanks for the info zrtom,

I think everyone with a Dell (any OEM) should keep the recovery partition.

If for some reason you can't keep it on your HD then keep a backup image of it or burn it to DVD.
Your reasons for keeping it are valid.

Looking forward to reading the tutorial.
Can you extract the WIM file and run it?
Would you need the WAIK file (6001.18000...kb3aikl_en.iso) to do that?

Dell has a clause in the Hardware Warranty that you may have to install the original OS for hardware warranty issues.
Even if you dual boot just for the warranty issue, having them replace hardware would make the recovery partition worth keeping.

Thanks Dave,
The Tools folder in Dell recovery partitions has everything you need, including imagex, to mount the factory image. None of this is "disabled" by installing Windows 7, only the WinRE option to run PCRestore.exe (that's why it has to be done manually).
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I've even gone as far as doing this:

• Custom (clean) install the Operating System (Vista, W7, it doesn't matter).
• Add tweaks
• Add software (whatever... Adobe PS, Office, AV, Sling Player, etc., etc.)
• Use the tool FacImg.exe to capture the new system and replace the file Factory.wim in the D:\RECOVERY\Image\ folder with my custom image. (The Dell tool FacImg.exe isn't part of the regular Tools folder..... I "obtained" it)

I did that more before I switched to Vista Ultimate and, now, W7 Ultimate with it's own imaging. What I don't have and need to get my hands on is a copy of the Tools folder from someone who has Vista (or now W7) x64 'cause I only have 32-bit tools and I no longer use 32-bit OS's. I can still do this process, only not with FacImg.exe; I have to use imagex x64 from the WAIK.

So, anyway, I should be writing a tutorial and not this....LOL
Tom

 

[wee]

I did a student upgrade clean install as the pro version wouldn't upgrade XP and the key verified. But when I called MS to have there help with removing the recovery partition there was no problem, but the main XP couldn't be removed W7 had used it for the 100Mib booting file since it was a running XP upgrade. So the MS tech said misinformed I might say that since they key worked once I could just overwrite the disc and the key would work not so. I cracked it with Pauls site info and called MS to close my case and was informed that even though I had all my ducks in a row with licensing that cracking the key made it not a legal verification. But since I had a record of XP ownership and due diligence in following MS protocol except for the crack they were happy to let me install while on the phone and crack the key in for me. So let the story be don't crack the key when you don't need to MS will help you.