Don't understand Windows 7 search!

annette

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Right page1 shows my pics folder!

Page 2 shows another folder!

Page 3 yet another!

Page 4 shows the results of a jpg search - and comes back with no items found!

There obviously are jpegs there so why doesnt search find them!

Some things seemed so much simpler before ....

Annette
 

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I have now managed to upload my evidence - why does windows 7 search not simply find all the files called *.jpg in my pics folder?

annette
 

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I have now managed to upload my evidence - why does windows 7 search not simply find all the files called *.jpg in my pics folder?

annette
Because your pics folder is located on drive "D". You will need to add drive "D" to your search index.
 
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If it's just about file searches, I rely on Everything It's faster than Windows search because it doesn't index file content. But of course, if you don't include drive D it won't find your pics there either.

-DG
 

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Or, in your search results window, scroll to the end and under "search again in" click "computer" It will now search your entire system, including your D drive, albeit, a lot slower.
 

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Part of this is a slight issue with how Windows Search 4.0 works. Windows Search 4.0 is part of Windows 7's search function.

Unless you tell it to index your different drives and it finally creates an index of those locations, it won't 'readily' see files you might be looking for.

If you are also using Outlook or other MS products that might have relevant information, Windows Search will try to integrate into that (Outlook 2007, for instance, its 'quick search' for more 'defined' searching, requires Windows Search 4.0 to be installed AND needs time to create an index before you can actually use it to its full capability.)
 

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Just checked and D is in my indexing list!

I have also run the indexing troubleshooter and that says all is a-ok!

Annette
 

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I have just deleted and rebuilt the index - it took about a minute and only appeared to index 198 items!

Annette
 

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I have just deleted and rebuilt the index - it took about a minute and only appeared to index 198 items!

Annette
It could be 198 folders, not files. What happens if you open D:\ in an explorer window and search from the explorer window?
 

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A minor note to also mention with what I have seen going on with Windows Search... Give it a day. Regardless of what it says, give it a day for it to build up indexes.

The reason I say this is depending on how much it has to index and how active you are on the computer, will take longer than an hour to do indexing.

The Search Indexer builds a rather crazy database level because of the possible permutations that it has to reference and cross-reference. It is also set up to minimize system performance, hence it will go slower when it knows you are active on the computer, thus taking more time.
 

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I have now managed to upload my evidence - why does windows 7 search not simply find all the files called *.jpg in my pics folder?

annette
Because your pics folder is located on drive "D". You will need to add drive "D" to your search index.

Not correct. You do not have to index a location to search it. The search will simply be slower.
 

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I have now managed to upload my evidence - why does windows 7 search not simply find all the files called *.jpg in my pics folder?

annette
Because your pics folder is located on drive "D". You will need to add drive "D" to your search index.

Not correct. You do not have to index a location to search it. The search will simply be slower.
You are correct, as long as the external drive is connected and recognized by Windows. To the OP, since your external drive is most likely not indexed, when you go to Start/search and no results appear, keep an eye near the top of the window, looking for the green "searching" bar. Since the drive is not indexed, it may take some time to search.
 

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I think trying to sort out Windows 7 indexed search is good idea. Rebuild the index, some registry fixes etc, etc. An MS Answers forum points to some evidence that McAfee Total Protection 2010 is playing a role.

Anyway I have moved to "Agent Ransack", a very fast, non indexed, capable, free light weight app that is really very good. It's in this forums' free programs list.
 

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Your .jpg search should return results (works here), but have you tried type:jpg?

James
 

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If you are searching an area of the PC or drive that is not indexed, the search works like it does in XP and requires you to type your search, then hit enter, then select "computer" It will find all your .jpg files on drive D, although, the search will be quite slow. When you type ".jpg" in your start menu search box and get no results, it means the items or drives you are searching are not indexed. At that point try hitting "enter" and then watch all of your .jpg files show up on your D drive.
 
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Intel 2.3 Duo core
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Nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
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WD Caviar Black 750 GB
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