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I am resuscitating an older laptop (windows xp). It has no antivirus software.
Without protection on the Internet, Avast and similar software are buried by other websites advertising various commodities, which overpower the proper downloads.
I have downloaded Avast in my own PC to a flash drive and added it to the laptop, but there is only an error message as a result.
What is the answer to this problem?
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64
CPU
intel core 2 duo E7400
Motherboard
Asus P5KPL
Memory
4 G
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce 9500GT
Hard Drives
500G
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cable
Hi:

I can't explain why one wouldn't be able to download a security application's installer to a flash drive and transfer it to the XP box.

A few things come to mind:

  • Some current AV software no longer supports the XP operating system -- perhaps Avast will not run on XP because it's not compatible with that OS (a screen shot of the error message might be helpful)?
  • If you are "resuscitating" an *XP* box (that sounds as if it is already infected, at least with adware/junkware, if not true malware), a reformat would probably be the best/safest way to go?
  • If the box *is* heavily infected, it can sometimes be hard to install AV software, even if it is compatible. The box might need to be cleaned (or reformatted) first.
  • This is sevenforums.com -- I'm sure the folks here are happy to help with this XP box, but there are other places that still provide active support for XP, such as the XP forum at bleepingcomputer.com, or a computer disinfection forum?
Cheers,
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Studio XPS 8500
OS
OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
CPU
Intel Core-i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard
"Dell" branded
Memory
16 GB DDR3 SDRAM @ 1333 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GT620 1 GB
Sound Card
THX TruStudio PC
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2410 Full HD
Hard Drives
2.0 TB SATA2 @ 7200 RPM
PSU
350W
Keyboard
MS 4000 Ergon - Wired
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
Cable HSI w/Turbo (router)
Antivirus
KIS-MBAM Premium-MBAE Premium
Browser
Fx (current version); IE
Other Info
And a Win7/64 Pro laptop; And a Win10/64 Pro desktop.
I must apologise for posting a XP problem on Windows 7 Forum. My PC has Windows 7 and I have visited this Forum for years, so it was habit to come here.
Thank you Moxie Momma for taking the trouble to reply and for the advice.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64
CPU
intel core 2 duo E7400
Motherboard
Asus P5KPL
Memory
4 G
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce 9500GT
Hard Drives
500G
Internet Speed
cable
Hello guybc do you have malwarebytes installed if not I would, the free version along with superantispyware which has a free version also. If you have been infected these 2 will find it.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600
Motherboard
Lenovo
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
1024MB GeForce GT 420
Sound Card
Intergrated Realtex ALC888S
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W40 series Widescreen
Screen Resolution
1920 by 1080 widescreen
Hard Drives
932GB Hitachi HDS TB
External drive 640 GB also
PSU
300W
Case
Tower
Cooling
yes came installed
Keyboard
Lenovo
Mouse
Laser wirless 5000
Antivirus
MBAM / Superantispyware pro paid for.
Browser
Google /
Other Info
PLDS DVD-RW DH16ABSH
Hi:

No apologies are needed, of course.
And I'm sure many of the fine, smart folks here are still facile with XP and willing to help.

I just thought that -- if my very rudimentary suggestions didn't work -- you might find a larger critical mass of folks who still work with XP in a different venue, especially if the box is infected.
Cleaning XP and -- more importantly -- REPAIRING XP, if damaged by malware, can be a bit dicey.
The OS is so long out of support from MS, that it's hard to find drivers, etc.

EDIT: It likely won't hurt to run MBAM +/- SAS, but the system may need deeper work with additional tools and (IMHO) a bit of expert help.

Cheers,
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Studio XPS 8500
OS
OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
CPU
Intel Core-i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard
"Dell" branded
Memory
16 GB DDR3 SDRAM @ 1333 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GT620 1 GB
Sound Card
THX TruStudio PC
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2410 Full HD
Hard Drives
2.0 TB SATA2 @ 7200 RPM
PSU
350W
Keyboard
MS 4000 Ergon - Wired
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
Cable HSI w/Turbo (router)
Antivirus
KIS-MBAM Premium-MBAE Premium
Browser
Fx (current version); IE
Other Info
And a Win7/64 Pro laptop; And a Win10/64 Pro desktop.
Here is one of our sister forums that might help if need be.

Windows XP
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Without protection on the Internet, Avast and similar software are buried by other websites advertising various commodities, which overpower the proper downloads.

Nothing like that. You have to use the original site for each software, saying away from any third party site will suffice to ensure clean downloads. Infected computer will obviously cause problems but ad-infected sites and fake downloads are independient of the computer itself.
Your common sense plays a very important role here.


I have downloaded Avast in my own PC to a flash drive and added it to the laptop, but there is only an error message as a result.

What error? Without some kind of detail is impossible to come with a possible solution.

Anyway, if you have suspicions that the computer in question is compromised, then the ONLY safe way is to reformat it and clean install the OS to ensure it's really clean. But if you know for a fact that the system has never been in trouble, it's just easier to use it to download anything it needs.

All this is also OS-independient. It could apply the same way if the computer has XP, 7, Linux or Mac.
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Sattelite A665-S6092
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7-740QM
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 330GT
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 SSD 500GB
1TB USB3 external HD
Cooling
Coolermaster Notepal U3 notebook cooling pad
Internet Speed
3mbps ASDL
Antivirus
ClamWin 0.98.7
Browser
Opera 12.17 x86 (main), Firefox 38 (sec), IE11 (last resort)
Nothing like that. You have to use the original site for each software, saying away from any third party site will suffice to ensure clean downloads. Infected computer will obviously cause problems but ad-infected sites and fake downloads are independient of the computer itself.
Your common sense plays a very important role here.

Excellent point about only downloading software directly from the publisher's own site, not 3rd-party sites.

Anyway, if you have suspicions that the computer in question is compromised, then the ONLY safe way is to reformat it and clean install the OS to ensure it's really clean. <snip>

All this is also OS-independient. It could apply the same way if the computer has XP, 7, Linux or Mac.
Agree.
My only point is that it's a bit harder to work with XP nowadays because support is limited to non-MS sources.
And since this is sevenforums.com, @LaybackBear and I were only nudging the OP towards venues that are more active with XP support.
If the OP is not experienced with or comfortable undertaking either malware cleanup or a reformat on his own, he might wish to take advantage of the excellent available support resources at the other fora.

That is all.:)

Cheers,

MM
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Studio XPS 8500
OS
OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
CPU
Intel Core-i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard
"Dell" branded
Memory
16 GB DDR3 SDRAM @ 1333 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GT620 1 GB
Sound Card
THX TruStudio PC
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2410 Full HD
Hard Drives
2.0 TB SATA2 @ 7200 RPM
PSU
350W
Keyboard
MS 4000 Ergon - Wired
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
Cable HSI w/Turbo (router)
Antivirus
KIS-MBAM Premium-MBAE Premium
Browser
Fx (current version); IE
Other Info
And a Win7/64 Pro laptop; And a Win10/64 Pro desktop.
All I was trying to do is give another resource of information for XP problems with our sister forum.

At the bottom of each page on this form is a list of our Sister Forums.
All of which would be another source of information for a particular operating system.
It cost nothing to take a look at these and just maybe some information or help can be found.
That it, no more, no less.


 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Hello again Layback Bear I agree 100% you should follow the instructions...
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600
Motherboard
Lenovo
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
1024MB GeForce GT 420
Sound Card
Intergrated Realtex ALC888S
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W40 series Widescreen
Screen Resolution
1920 by 1080 widescreen
Hard Drives
932GB Hitachi HDS TB
External drive 640 GB also
PSU
300W
Case
Tower
Cooling
yes came installed
Keyboard
Lenovo
Mouse
Laser wirless 5000
Antivirus
MBAM / Superantispyware pro paid for.
Browser
Google /
Other Info
PLDS DVD-RW DH16ABSH
Just exactly what instructions should I follow?
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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