Dragon Age II German demo is out

[sygnus21]

Does PS2 feature DX11 graphics? I ask because I don't have any gaming consoles.

**EDIT** Wrong Quote. Meant to quote a previous post, about re-thinking the pre-order.

We mentioned this in the "What Are you playing" forum.

The DEMO is out now, in ENG.
You can play it for yourself and see what you think now.

Mine kept getting corrupt from the main site. May have been servers hammered.
BUT ...
The DA2 Demo is also available through STEAM, if your a STEAM user as well as FilePlanet.

Give it a go, intersted in hearing your thoughts.

As far as the Grey Wardens, they were mentioned in DEMO. Not sure where esle the will fit into anything though.

That consoles featured DX11 cards???

Edit: Just now saw your edit

Anyways looking at the bad reviews over at rage has got me re-thinking my order - Dragon Age 2 - Page 12 - Rage3D Discussion Area

 

[Everlong]

Does PS2 feature DX11 graphics? I ask because I don't have any gaming consoles.

Well I'm guessing PS2 = Playstation 2, which was released in 2000, so I don't no it doesn't

The demo has a DX9 and DX11 renderer option. I don't see how setting it to DX11 makes the game look like a game on PS2...

To be honest though, graphics don't make a game, so I tend to ignore criticisms about graphics. Sure they help with immersion.

I'm not really going to judge the game based on the demo either. It's playable yea, but I do actually want to play DA:O beforehand. I'm guessing it's going to be like going from ME2 to ME1?

 

[Maguscreed]

A truly great game has storyline, difficulty, graphics, and polish.

What I'm seeing of this doesn't really state it has any of those things.

 

[sygnus21]

To be honest though, graphics don't make a game, so I tend to ignore criticisms about graphics. Sure they help with immersion.

Neither do I, but there does have to be some level of good graphics given today's gaming environment. Do I expect "Crysis" graphics... no, but I don't expect to see a step backwards either.

Now, to put things in perspective, I actually thought the graphics in DA:O were pretty good, so anything less than that is really silly.

but I do actually want to play DA:O beforehand. I'm guessing it's going to be like going from ME2 to ME1?

DA:O is a great game with a great story line. How DA2 will fair is a guessing game at this point. Early reviews aren't so kind thus far.

One more thing about declining game graphics - Looking at Bioshock 1 I loved the graphics in it, Bioshock 2 I thought the graphics were a little dull and actually looked like a step backwards. I'm thinking that's what all the graphics bites criticism is coming from in DA2 - they look like a step backwards.

Of course I haven't tried the demo yet so I reserve judgment till I do.

My two cents.

 

[Wishmaster]

Personally, I didn't have any issues with DA2s graphics. They are a bit different compared to 1, but still ..

Visually the game itself was fine to my eyes.

My complaints were simply due to Gameplay, and the fact there was nothing drawing me to the characters.

With the exception of 1 in the Demo, but that was mostly due to the the previous game.

 

[Maguscreed]

I think we are dealing with an engine problem here.
I can barely tell the difference between dx9 and dx11 in this game.
Something isn't right....
I'm going to play around with settings some and see what I can manage, but I'm honestly just not impressed. They're only a couple of steps from this just being a straight up hack and slash.

Edit: okay I finally got it running clean in dx11 with maxed settings. I do have to say if the demo is really indicative of the difficulty curve, the game is way to easy now. Able to wipe out entire lines of enemies with a single instant ability. It really is leaning towards hack and slash for me.

That being said when I finally got it running it right the dx11 mode is very clean. It's missing that oppressive shader that actually gave the original a lot of it's oppressive feel. Which I actually liked.

The screens are standard .jpg format but both this website and photobucket call it a invalid format and won't let me upload them.
Okay ran out of ideas so I rar'ed one.
it's full settings at 1080p so I'm guessing that's about as good as the game looks. It's a very clean look, but the messy heavy feel of the original game actually gave it environment ... I don't know.

 

[sygnus21]

I think we are dealing with an engine problem here.
I can barely tell the difference between dx9 and dx11 in this game.
Something isn't right....
I'm going to play around with settings some and see what I can manage, but I'm honestly just not impressed. They're only a couple of steps from this just being a straight up hack and slash.

Edit: okay I finally got it running clean in dx11 with maxed settings. I do have to say if the demo is really indicative of the difficulty curve, the game is way to easy now. Able to wipe out entire lines of enemies with a single instant ability. It really is leaning towards hack and slash for me.

That being said when I finally got it running it right the dx11 mode is very clean. It's missing that oppressive shader that actually gave the original a lot of it's oppressive feel. Which I actually liked.

The screens are standard .jpg format but both this website and photobucket call it a invalid format and won't let me upload them.
Okay ran out of ideas so I rar'ed one.
it's full settings at 1080p so I'm guessing that's about as good as the game looks. It's a very clean look, but the messy heavy feel of the original game actually gave it environment ... I don't know.

Here you go.....

 

[Maguscreed]

Was it resolution size?

 

[sygnus21]

Was it resolution size?

Probably. Out of habit I automatically resize to 800x600 when I post images. That's what I did with yours, so yeah it could have been.

And yeah, those don't look that great but.....

 

[Maguscreed]

It's a very clean look, I actually preferred the dx10 shaders in the original. The dx11 shaders are too clean looking for the overall mood.

 

[Gornot]

I keep refering to "PS2 graphics" becase not all of us have DX11 capable cards. Perhaps setting DX11 rendering mode looks better than DX9, though I don't see how this could look any better, unless they make more tweaks (I have seen with my own eyes that it doesn't change much)... and that's not likely to happen.

Here is a very simple comparison:

Origins


DA2


Also, I keep seeing characters' clothing in DA2 demo and facepalming at how it all looks tied together and blurry, it's just a damn freakfest.

ANd of course graphics make a good game, if it wasn't the case, we'd still be playing games on Atari... We all spend our money on GPUs for a reason, so the last thing I want is to play something that is so annoying to the eye. Not that I'm saying that I won't play DA2 solely because of the graphics... Nothing else is pleasing to me either, from story to gameplay.
The presentation of DA2 is excellent, as expected from Bioware (remember the first DA2 trailer? I was so excited because it looked so good), but that doesn't make things any different for me, and that's why I never trust game developers and never pre-order games...
Witcher 2 is an exception I will NOT regret... ever! lol

 

[vierasniper]

holy hell, they're ****ing it up. well its official i have nothing to live for

 

[Maguscreed]

If you download the rar I attached on the other page you can see a screen in full 1080p dx11 settings on.
It's clean, but it's missing all the atmosphere of the original game.

 

[Gornot]

The atmosphere is what made DA:O so good!
Look at Witcher 2
Check out the newest trailer for Skyrim! Even Oblivion had a better atmosphere than this.

I understand that, perhaps, I may be over-reacting, basing my opinion on the demo, but any normal and reasonable person would notice the disastrous difference

 

[Maguscreed]

yeah, it's a hack and slash with dialog, that's what I've been telling everyone. It's really quit sad.

 

[Gornot]

The game had a lot of potential, even though the main storyline in DA:O was quite unoriginal (big evil rises and you gather an army to defeat it, oh noz); the amount of lore and detail, the connection between your character and companions, their stories, some very interesting quests, tons of loot... I can go on and on about how DAO was awesome and epic.

I've played hack&slash RPGs so many times I feel dizzy just thinking about it... If you like RPGs, play Two Worlds 2 instead.

 

[Maguscreed]

TW2 crashed repeatedly on my machine, I actually gave my copy to a friend that could get it to run.

 

[Gornot]

You should get the Gold Upgrade patch, fixed all problems for me (not that I had too many in the first place)

 

[Maguscreed]

lol too late I already gave it away.

 

[Gornot]

Then get it back xD
Most of the bugs in TW2 were circled around certain missions, after applying the Gold Patch it fixed it all