Dual Booting 7 with XP problem

Nikolay

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I was dual booting Windows 7 build 7201 x64 with XP but recently felt like formatting my drive with 7 on it and did a clean install of build 7232 x64. I tried adding an entry for XP with EasyBCD but when I try to boot up XP I get a "missing system32/hall.dll" error and tells me to install it. Windows 7 is on my C drive, XP is on my second hard drive.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Started out as an AST180
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Windows XP Pro x86 | Windows Vista Ultimate x86
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200 2.7 GHz
Motherboard
Acer EM61SM/EM61PM
Memory
3G RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD Radeon 4670
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache, 160 GB Seagate
PSU
Corsair 450VX 450W
Keyboard
Microsoft Media Pro 3000
Mouse
Logitech MX310
when you add XP using EasyBCD make sure you change the drive letter to correspond with the one XP is on, and you may need to copy the NTLDR and NTDETECT.COM files to the root of your XP. these files are generally found on your XP disc in the i386 folder of your XP install disc.file:///D:/NTDETECT.COM
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
eMachines W3503
OS
7 Pro Build 7600.16385x64 [2.0 WEI]
CPU
Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.33GHz
Memory
2.00 GB RAM (1.87 GB usable)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon™ X300 based integrated graphics
Sound Card
6-channel (5.1) ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
eMachines® 17" LCD Flat Panel Monitor (17F3)
Screen Resolution
1024 x 768 @ 85Hz
Hard Drives
160GB HDD (7200rpm, 2MB cache)

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
Lets see your boot.ini. You might have to change the rdisk and/or partition value.
they would be using the vista bootloader to add XP, so why would boot.ini matter?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
eMachines W3503
OS
7 Pro Build 7600.16385x64 [2.0 WEI]
CPU
Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.33GHz
Memory
2.00 GB RAM (1.87 GB usable)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon™ X300 based integrated graphics
Sound Card
6-channel (5.1) ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
eMachines® 17" LCD Flat Panel Monitor (17F3)
Screen Resolution
1024 x 768 @ 85Hz
Hard Drives
160GB HDD (7200rpm, 2MB cache)
yes you can add an entry to the Vista/7 boot manager, but the boot.ini is still used.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
I have ntldr, ntdetect, and msdia80.dll on both drives
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Started out as an AST180
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Windows XP Pro x86 | Windows Vista Ultimate x86
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200 2.7 GHz
Motherboard
Acer EM61SM/EM61PM
Memory
3G RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD Radeon 4670
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache, 160 GB Seagate
PSU
Corsair 450VX 450W
Keyboard
Microsoft Media Pro 3000
Mouse
Logitech MX310
what about boot.ini ?

If the boot.ini is incorrect you can get this exact error.

Nikolay said:
when I try to boot up XP I get a "missing system32/hall.dll" error and tells me to install it.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
I don't have boot.ini in either drive
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Started out as an AST180
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Windows XP Pro x86 | Windows Vista Ultimate x86
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200 2.7 GHz
Motherboard
Acer EM61SM/EM61PM
Memory
3G RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD Radeon 4670
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache, 160 GB Seagate
PSU
Corsair 450VX 450W
Keyboard
Microsoft Media Pro 3000
Mouse
Logitech MX310
are you sure? it will be a hidden file.

If you dont have one, create it. Here is mine:

Code:
;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=4
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /FASTDETECT /NoExecute=OptIn

P.S. - rdisk is the hard disk number and partition is obviously the partition number. You may have to tweak those values to get it right on your system.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
If it's hidden then I probably do have it. Nothing has changed to my XP drive prior to formatting my drive with 7 so I'm guessing something is wrong with the C drive. Here are screenshots of my setup with Easybcd.
 

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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Started out as an AST180
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Windows XP Pro x86 | Windows Vista Ultimate x86
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200 2.7 GHz
Motherboard
Acer EM61SM/EM61PM
Memory
3G RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD Radeon 4670
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache, 160 GB Seagate
PSU
Corsair 450VX 450W
Keyboard
Microsoft Media Pro 3000
Mouse
Logitech MX310

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
Alright I will try to repair the boot.ini file, thanks for the help and will report back.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Started out as an AST180
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Windows XP Pro x86 | Windows Vista Ultimate x86
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200 2.7 GHz
Motherboard
Acer EM61SM/EM61PM
Memory
3G RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD Radeon 4670
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache, 160 GB Seagate
PSU
Corsair 450VX 450W
Keyboard
Microsoft Media Pro 3000
Mouse
Logitech MX310
Yep. To confirm, I have had a few instances where I had to edit my boot.ini file in a dual or triple boot scenario to get XP booting properly from the boot menu. Things that can or definitely will cause the need for this are adding or removing drives in the pc, adding a usb flash drive that was never there before etc...

Good advice sup3rsprt. +1
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
7600.20510 x86
CPU
P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz
Motherboard
MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard
Memory
OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz
Graphics Card(s)
HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP
Sound Card
MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit
Monitor(s) Displays
22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB
PSU
350W generic
Case
Cybertronpc, it glows blue
Cooling
stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans
Keyboard
Logitch Classical Keyboard 200
Mouse
Logitech Mediaplay cordless
Internet Speed
1792/448 kbits/sec
Other Info
SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
Alright I will try to repair the boot.ini file, thanks for the help and will report back.


Do not use the steps in that guide, or it might hose the Windows 7 boot manager. I only gave that link as proof that Microsoft detailed this same issue.

As I recommended earlier, just take the boot.ini I gave you and adjust it accordingly.

P.S. - Thanks torrentg!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
My XP partition was cluttered with junk so I formatted and reinstalled XP. Problem is now gone, thanks for all the help guys. I'm off to install drivers.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Started out as an AST180
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Windows XP Pro x86 | Windows Vista Ultimate x86
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200 2.7 GHz
Motherboard
Acer EM61SM/EM61PM
Memory
3G RAM
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD Radeon 4670
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache, 160 GB Seagate
PSU
Corsair 450VX 450W
Keyboard
Microsoft Media Pro 3000
Mouse
Logitech MX310
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