Essentials update

[veegee]

Last night I had an update for Windows Essentials or maybe Microsoft essentials. I checked in windows updates but it wasn't listed there so I clicked the update icon and as it was doing it's thing, I cancelled it because I realized I don't have MS essentials. I only have Windows Defender and Windows Live Mail 2011 on the computer. But now, am wondering if I did the wrong thing.
If I do need it because of defender and wlm...could you please tell me how and where I can find this update now?

I was going to run a scan with PSI from Secunia to see if maybe they would find something that was not updated, but I couldn't find the one that you just scan but don't have to download and install it. Could you please direct me to the scanner?

Answers to these two questions would be most appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Roderunner]

Secunia online Scanner.

Go to 'Programs and features' click Windows Live Essentials and do a repair.

 

[Hanna 1]

veegee
MSSE is a free AV from microsoft for win 7 and that one replaces Windows defender in this win 7 release if installed and WD will be back with the release of windows 8.
So it's better to let WU to handle needed updates.
Microsoft Security Essentials Product Information
In this site please read the product informations.
Good luck

 

[Golden]

I was going to run a scan with PSI from Secunia to see if maybe they would find something that was not updated, but I couldn't find the one that you just scan but don't have to download and install it. Could you please direct me to the scanner?

Try this tutorial for Secunia OSI:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/181981-secunia-online-software-inspector.html

 

[NoelDP]

Secunia is not an ant-virus in the conventional sense - and Defender in WIn7 is not an Anti-Virus in any sense of the term.

What actual Anti-Virus do you have installed?

if the answer is 'None' then you should back up your data to external storage, and then reformat and reinstall your OS.

 

[t-4-2]

Last night I had an update for Windows Essentials or maybe Microsoft essentials. I checked in windows updates but it wasn't listed there so I clicked the update icon and as it was doing it's thing, I cancelled it because I realized I don't have MS essentials. I only have Windows Defender and Windows Live Mail 2011 on the computer. But now, am wondering if I did the wrong thing.
If I do need it because of defender and wlm...could you please tell me how and where I can find this update now?

I was going to run a scan with PSI from Secunia to see if maybe they would find something that was not updated, but I couldn't find the one that you just scan but don't have to download and install it. Could you please direct me to the scanner?

Answers to these two questions would be most appreciated. Thanks.

You received that MS Live Esentials update because you have Windows Live Mail which is one of the prorams offered in Windows Live Essentials.
There is a new WLM version.... build 15.4.3555.0308
Have a look at your WLM version....
Open WLM > click the blue button at top left > About > what version does it say ?
I bet yours is not the same.

You should have accepted the updates. It would have updated your WLM, and it wouldn't and couldn't update any Windows Live Essentials programs that you don't have. You have nothing to worry about accepting the update.

 

[t-4-2]

veegee,
You could wait for next time it prompts you for an WLEssentials update. It will. I had this happened to me. I know.

Or,

You can go online and download it...
Download Windows Live Mail 2011 (15.4.3555) - FileHippo.com

 

[veegee]

essentials update

Thanks for everyone's help.
I ran the Secunia OSI scan, result was 'no errors'. Ran repair on windows essentials in ctrl panel and some time later the update reappeared, so clicked on it and it disappeared. Did another repair but it never returned.

I am aware that OSI is not an AV. What I meant was the only MS programs I use are windows defender and WLM (& unfortunately MS firewall also).
I think what concerned me the most was how I got stuck with WLM 2011 in the first place; because MS said it was a "very important" update and I stupidly didn't research it before accepting it (an update with a jillion other junk that I would never use), and I thought what more goodies might be in store with this update. Just give me the old windows mail and I would be happy.

t-4-2 Thanks for explaining this - has sure set my mind at ease. My WLM version is 15.4.3538.0513.

 

[t-4-2]

So, your WLM is out-dated.

You want to wait for next update or you want to download the current version now...... It's your call.

 

[NoelDP]

If you are only running with Windows Defender, then you have no antivirus - and that is almost criminal in this day and age, unless you are an expert.
I will refrain from adivsing a reformat/reinstall - gut it is something you should consider.

Whatever you do, you MUST install a proper Anti-Virus program, or you risk not only your own machine and data, but any machine yours comes into contact with in any way, and anyone whose email address or other data you have on file

There are many Free AV's out there - some good, some not so good. The ones I have experience of that are good, are MSE and Avast. I have started to actively dislike AVG, because of bloat.

 

[veegee]

Essentials Update

NoelDP - Sorry, I neglected to mention that I also run Avast AV, MBAM pro, spywareblaster, spybot, also online scanners, (and Win. Defender & Win. firewall). Guess I just took it for granted that NOBODY would be as clueless as to not use an AV program. Also do regular maintenance like CCleaner, temp & Int. file cleanup, disk checks etc. Doing the best I can. Hope I haven't forgotten anything this time.
Thanks for your input!


t-4-2 - In order to download current version from FileHippo, would you have to uninstall existing one in use first?
Thank you.

 

[t-4-2]

I don't believe it is necessary. The new version should just over-write the old one, just like when I installed the WLEssentials update, it just updated my WLM to newer version.

However, you may want to wait for a different answer, if I am wrong.
One thing I do know for sure...
Once I wanted the WLM 2009 version instead of 2011 which I was not used to at the time. I wanted the one I was used to.
So, I uninstalled 2011 and re-installed 2009. All my old emails were untouched. They were there when I opened the 2009 WLM.
I was advised to backup the e-mails beforehand, I didn't do it, and it was not necessary, as it turned out.

 

[t-4-2]

adding......
It should be pointed out that, if there is more than one Windows Live program in the system, and if you want to change one of them into a different version, then you must uninstall the current WLEssentials version, then install the version you want instead.
In short, you cannot "mix and match".
such as... WLM in 2011 and Wlindows Live Photo Gallery in 2009. That's mix and match, can't do that.

Caution....
Avast and Malwarebytes Pro will create conflicts since both are in "real time protetion" mode.

 

[NoelDP]

Caution....
Avast and Malwarebytes Pro will create conflicts since both are in "real time protetion" mode.

.... only if the Malwarebytes has been set to

In theory, MBAM should not conflict with Avast (it is designed to operate in conjunction with conventional AV's) - but I agree that the first thing to eliminate would be any possible conflict, by disabling hte MBAM Real-Time Protection.

I've had systems where it has not caused a problem, and very similar systems where it has - with the same AV.

 

[t-4-2]

Caution....
Avast and Malwarebytes Pro will create conflicts since both are in "real time protetion" mode.

.... only if the Malwarebytes has been set to

In theory, MBAM should not conflict with Avast (it is designed to operate in conjunction with conventional AV's) - but I agree that the first thing to eliminate would be any possible conflict, by disabling hte MBAM Real-Time Protection.

I've had systems where it has not caused a problem, and very similar systems where it has - with the same AV.

Personal opinion only.
Malearebytes Pro is not a free version. If I bought it, I surely would intend to use it for real-time protection. Else, I would have taken the free version, which I am having now.... MSE real-time, free MBAM on-demand.

MBAM says there could be possible conflicts.
Avast and malwarebytes conflict question - Malwarebytes Forum
Read what the moderator said.

FAQ - Common Issues, Questions, and their Solutions - Malwarebytes Forum
Section K
excerpt.....
The following instructions show you how to exclude Avast! 6 and Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware from one another to prevent conflicts and improve performance:

 

[NoelDP]

Avast and malwarebytes conflict question - Malwarebytes Forum
Read what the moderator said.

FAQ - Common Issues, Questions, and their Solutions - Malwarebytes Forum
Section K
excerpt.....
The following instructions show you how to exclude Avast! 6 and Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware from one another to prevent conflicts and improve performance:

That first link is two years old!! - and the data in the second link appears to be over a year old.
MBAM put out a new release a couple of days ago, and Avast have also updated since then so the information is likely to be stale at best.

 

[Joan Archer]

I never had any problems with MBAM when I did the update. I have the paid version running in real time alongside Microsoft Security Essentials and neither of them squawked when I let Live Essentials update, I have the whole package.

 

[veegee]

essentials update

I have used Avast for about three years and MBAM free for longer than that but upgraded MBAM to pro almost a year ago. There hasn't been a problem. They both update themselves seamlessly. MBAM is constantly blocking undesirables from accessing my computer also as does Avast respond when the occasion presents itself.

t-4-2 Like your user name! Would you possibly know the most up to date version of Windows Mail 2009 (the one just before the infamous 2011 version).
Did the mail setup part stay all intact when you installed 2009 version also or did you have to set it up all over again?

 

[t-4-2]

>>>>>t-4-2 Like your user name!

Would you possibly know the most up to date version of Windows Mail 2009 (the one just before the infamous 2011 version).
Did the mail setup part stay all intact when you installed 2009 version also or did you have to set it up all over again?

No, I don't know the lattest version of WLM 2009.
I do have the link to download WLM 2009, but it is not from Microsoft.
Download Windows Live Mail 2009 - FileHippo.com
Note : the download button is at the right, not the one on the left.

I won't advise you to do that. Stick with the the latest 2011 version.

No, I had to setup the account from scratch. So, you will have to copy down the settings before you do the uninstalling and reinstalling.