Excluding some drives from search

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I have a large, slow, external disk array used for backup purposes. My backups run overnight, finishing around 03:00 but something is keeping the drives busy through the day. I suspect indexing, though it could also be internal housekeeping on the device. The noise is a distraction...

I'm turning off indexing as an experiment, but I suspect this will make system-wide searches incredibly slow.

Is there any way to default the search to exclude this device (the search would nearly always find the target on my fast drives, so no point finding copies on the backup media).

In other words, can I specify that a search will scan only indexed devices?

A related question: Is there a simple way to monitor the origin of all I/O to a particular drive? Then I'd know why it was busy.
 

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In other words, can I specify that a search will scan only indexed devices?
Yes, write "indexing options" in the search box of the Start menu, or from the Control Panel in Icon view.

Technically that allows you to exclude drives from the indexing, which is what you actually want to do. Search works by looking up stuff in the index, which per-se is pretty fast (the entire point of indexing), it's building the index that is intensive.

Is there a simple way to monitor the origin of all I/O to a particular drive?
Yes, write "resource monitor" in the search box of the Start menu, or from Task Manager in the Performance tab, or from somewhere else.

Then in the Disk tab you see what is going on. If it is a system process may be harder to find out as it's not clearly labeled, but afaik the only system process that can do that is the indexing or something clearly identifiable anyway.
 

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Indexing Options

I went into Indexing Options and unchecked the two drives mapped to the External Array.

I confess that I'm not sure what effect this will have; whether it will just stop the drives from being indexed, or from being searched. Even Google failed to come up with an answer to this puzzle, so I'll have to experiment.
 

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OCZ-VERTEX450 (256 GB)
ST31000524AS (1000.20 GB)
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Lenovo SK-8815 Multimedia keyboard
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if you unchecked them, they won't be indexed.

Afaik, this means Search won't find anything that is stored on them unless you specifically ask it from an advanced search, and then its performance will suck as it will have to crawl around to find stuff just like in XP days.

From indexing options you can define folders to index too, so if you have data on that array you can tell it to index it, while not indexing the folder containing backups.

In case you need to search within your backups, you can use Everything, it builds its own search index pretty faster than Win7's own indexing. Even a few TB of data get indexed in a little more than 5 minutes.
 

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NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
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Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
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Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
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(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
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whatever, around 450w
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Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
I've managed to achieve exactly the result that I didn't want. My J: drive is now not indexed, it takes a long time to do a search, and it tells me that it would go faster if it were indexed.

For anyone joining the thread at this point, the intention was that a search would bypass the J: drive completely (it's backup, I'd like to be able to search it is I specifically wantes to search the backup drives.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Arbico/Quiet i7377
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
3.40 gigahertz Intel Core i7-3770 Multi-core (4 total)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8Z77-V LX Rev X.0x
Memory
16Gb
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7700
Sound Card
AMD High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2443BW/Lenovo L2240pwD
Screen Resolution
1920x1200 1050x1680
Hard Drives
OCZ-VERTEX450 (256 GB)
ST31000524AS (1000.20 GB)
Drobo 5D 5-disk enclosure
Seagate USB 1Tb
ST1500DL 003-9VT16L 1500.30 GB
Case
Special noise-reducing case
Cooling
Quiet fans
Keyboard
Lenovo SK-8815 Multimedia keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX
Internet Speed
~7mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials (and caution)
Browser
Chrome/Opera/Firefox/IE/Off-by-One
Other Info
Acoustic Energy AEGO-M Speakers - incredible sound, given their size.
try to tell it to index the drive but exclude the folder where you have backups in.

Or use the tool I posted above to search in the non-indexed areas.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
CPU
AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
I've managed to achieve exactly the result that I didn't want. My J: drive is now not indexed, it takes a long time to do a search, and it tells me that it would go faster if it were indexed.

For anyone joining the thread at this point, the intention was that a search would bypass the J: drive completely (it's backup, I'd like to be able to search it is I specifically wantes to search the backup drives.

I use Agent Ransack for searching and find it a very useful utility;

Agent Ransack - Download

HTH
 

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