Explorer Bug?

Ar7ific1al

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Hi guys, new to the forum. Registered specifically to get help with this blasted issue I've been having. I am unable to recreate the problem, as it seems to be one of those things where Microsoft's horrible crap decides to malfunction all on its own, seemingly for no reason and with seemingly no trigger.

Alright, here's the problem. This is the 4th time this has happened in the past 2 months. I'll be doing my own little thing as usual, which is talking to buddies on WLM and browsing the internet using Firefox, when all of a sudden my WLM hangs and freezes, displaying the "(Not Responding)" tag in the window bar. Waiting for it to fix itself does nothing, because it will not fix itself. At this point, my internet browsing also becomes useless. I can do nothing in any Explorer windows, such as move files, open files, view files, delete files, etc, etc. In the Task Manager, Explorer.exe shows no signs of activity, as it does when you do normal things; the memory usage fluctuates, the CPU usage fluctuates, etc. when you do things. It doesn't do this, however. Upon ending explorer and trying to restart it, it sits there in the processes list, doing nothing. It sits at an extremely low memory consumption, reporting a static 928 KB of memory usage. I can't run the command prompt, I can't do anything, really. Nothing that seems to have a direct reliance on explorer.exe will function. At this point, I am FORCED to do a hard boot. I have tried everything I can think of to determine what causes this. It is highly frustrating, and I just can't seem to find out what in the world causes it! As I said, I can't reproduce it at my own will, it's one of those things Windows does that just seems to have a mind of its own where it says "OH HEY TIME TO GIVE THE USER A HARD TIME AND MALFUNCTION!! BZZT!" One of those sorts of things. Anyone have any ideas or further questions about it?

EDIT: Forgot to mention my OS. I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x86.
 
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Self-Built
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Windows 7 Professional x64
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AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.66 GHz
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Asus M4A77TD
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4 GB (2x 2 GB) OCZ Gold DDR3
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XFX Radeon HD 5770
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Integrated VIA HD Audio
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Polaroid TLX-03211b LCD TV
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1x Western Digital 80 GB
1x Western Digital 250 GB
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XFX 650W Gaming PSU
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XION
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My Computer

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Custom Build #2
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 O.C.'d to 2.80 GHz (For Now >:) )
Motherboard
Gigabyte P43-ES3G
Memory
4x1GB OCZ Dual Channel RAM
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VH-236
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
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WD Caviar-Blue 250 GB SATA
WD Caviar-Green 1.5 TB SATA
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Raidmax RX-630SS
Case
Apevia X-Dreamer
Cooling
Case: Arctic Cooling CPU:Rosewill RCX Z2
I am 100% certain it is not a hardware issue. I have had absolutely no problems out of Windows until last month when it started to do this. I did, however, have issues out of Windows 7 Ultimate x64, where it would BSOD at any given time. This I attribute to my network card, which is AT LEAST 6 years old, and has no 64-bit drivers. Or rather, SIGNED drivers. It causes absolutely no problems with x86. I have Crap Cleaner, and I do use it frequently. I've been an avid Crap Cleaner user for the past 4 or 5 years, as it works wonders sometimes. There is no software that I can think of that would cause any problems, and my hardware has proven to be very stable. My system was built by myself, a first-time build, in August, and as I've said, the only problems I've had out of it are driver-related with 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate. My RAM is fine, as far as I can tell. I just updated my graphics drivers, I doubt that was the problem, though. My hard drives are fine, audio chipset is fine, etc. I have no stability issues what-so-ever. I'm about 95% certain this is just some sort of bug my installation of Windows 7 has. I REALLY do not want to reinstall Windows, because I have several programs that take so long to install (Visual Studio 2008 and 2010, Adobe CS5, GAH!!) Do you have any other suggestions?

EDIT: For 2 or 3 years before I built this computer myself, I would reinstall Windows XP on my previous machine nearly every 4 months, because I seem to be cursed with Murphy's Law. Seriously. Anything that can go wrong absolutely does go wrong with me. My hardware is the only thing that hasn't gone wrong so far; I've had software bug out on me constantly, in which reinstalling usually fixes.
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4A77TD
Memory
4 GB (2x 2 GB) OCZ Gold DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Integrated VIA HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Polaroid TLX-03211b LCD TV
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1x Western Digital 80 GB
1x Western Digital 250 GB
1x Western Digital 500 GB
PSU
XFX 650W Gaming PSU
Case
XION
Cooling
Stock
What Antivirus program do you use?
(I'm not suggesting it's a virus, just wondering, though)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build #2
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 O.C.'d to 2.80 GHz (For Now >:) )
Motherboard
Gigabyte P43-ES3G
Memory
4x1GB OCZ Dual Channel RAM
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VH-236
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar-Blue 250 GB SATA
WD Caviar-Green 1.5 TB SATA
PSU
Raidmax RX-630SS
Case
Apevia X-Dreamer
Cooling
Case: Arctic Cooling CPU:Rosewill RCX Z2
I use avast! Antivirus. I've used it for many years, and it's great, in my opinion. But like the overall gist of an article I read about which antivirus is best: just because you can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So, I never really rule out the possibility of a virus, it's just that these days, I'm not near as virus prone as I used to be LOL I used to be into all kinds of bad stuff.. I've since slowed down on those sorts of things as to avoid having to reinstall Windows every 4 months because of malware.

EDIT: Geez, I almost freaked out here... I hate this WinSAT! I had to disable it on Windows 7 x64 because I didn't like it.. I didn't disable it on x86 and I almost freaked out because I thought DWM crashed silently. Checking the task manager revealed that winsat was running, so I let it finish and then disabled the task... This brings me to another question. Do you have any suggestions as to maybe any Windows built-in functionality that might be causing my problem? I know I've had problems before where the Windows Firewall will randomly disconnect me from my home network, which is fixed by disabled the firewall in Windows. Perhaps there's some service or something conflicting, possibly, and causing a silent explorer.exe crash?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4A77TD
Memory
4 GB (2x 2 GB) OCZ Gold DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Integrated VIA HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Polaroid TLX-03211b LCD TV
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1x Western Digital 80 GB
1x Western Digital 250 GB
1x Western Digital 500 GB
PSU
XFX 650W Gaming PSU
Case
XION
Cooling
Stock
I wouldn't think of anything that would cause it other than what i already asked you about.
You might need to do a reinstall.
One more thing, though, that you might want to check.
Go to Start, then type in msconfig and hit enter. What do you have in your startup programs and startup services lists? (I know you might've already done this, but this is just a troubleshooting step)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build #2
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 O.C.'d to 2.80 GHz (For Now >:) )
Motherboard
Gigabyte P43-ES3G
Memory
4x1GB OCZ Dual Channel RAM
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VH-236
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar-Blue 250 GB SATA
WD Caviar-Green 1.5 TB SATA
PSU
Raidmax RX-630SS
Case
Apevia X-Dreamer
Cooling
Case: Arctic Cooling CPU:Rosewill RCX Z2
Nothing suspicious, that I can tell. It's all pretty much stuff that Windows either needs or shouldn't be messed with just in case. However, I did think of something. Have you heard of DriveHQ? I installed their file manager and stuff about a month and a half ago, and before that, I never had this problem. However, if I uninstall it, it could take weeks to determine whether or not it it affected anything. This problem I'm having is very random. In fact, it hasn't occurred for the past 3 and a half weeks until just before I started this thread. It's still worth a shot, though, I guess.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4A77TD
Memory
4 GB (2x 2 GB) OCZ Gold DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Integrated VIA HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Polaroid TLX-03211b LCD TV
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1x Western Digital 80 GB
1x Western Digital 250 GB
1x Western Digital 500 GB
PSU
XFX 650W Gaming PSU
Case
XION
Cooling
Stock
Shoot, might as well. just make sure you have a backup of your files or something, in case your comp blue screens and is unusable.
Edit: It would help me to know what is in your startup programs and services lists
 

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Custom Build #2
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 O.C.'d to 2.80 GHz (For Now >:) )
Motherboard
Gigabyte P43-ES3G
Memory
4x1GB OCZ Dual Channel RAM
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VH-236
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar-Blue 250 GB SATA
WD Caviar-Green 1.5 TB SATA
PSU
Raidmax RX-630SS
Case
Apevia X-Dreamer
Cooling
Case: Arctic Cooling CPU:Rosewill RCX Z2
Geez, really...? The services list is so long! If I check the box that says hide services from Microsoft, it's a lot shorter, however.. would you like those, instead...?

As for the startup programs, it lists the following as checked:
Java(TM) Platform SE Auto Updater 2.0
HDAudioCpl
ATI Customer Care
AMD Dual-Core Optimizer
avast! Antivirus
QuickTime
iTunes
Adobe Acrobat
Catalyst Control Center
Daemon Tools Lite

It lists the following as unchecked:
Adobe Reader and Acrobat Manager
Microsoft Office 2010
DivX Update
DriveHQ Filemanager
Dropbox
 

My Computer

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Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4A77TD
Memory
4 GB (2x 2 GB) OCZ Gold DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Integrated VIA HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Polaroid TLX-03211b LCD TV
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1x Western Digital 80 GB
1x Western Digital 250 GB
1x Western Digital 500 GB
PSU
XFX 650W Gaming PSU
Case
XION
Cooling
Stock
Yea, I only wanted the non-microsoft services.
As for the startup programs, you can remove:
Java(TM) Platform SE Auto Updater 2.0
ATI Customer Care
QuickTime
iTunes
Adobe Acrobat.

You could probably also uncheck the catalyst control center, as mine is, but i'd leave it there for now.
That should make your comp start up a lot faster, and it might prevent a lock up.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build #2
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 O.C.'d to 2.80 GHz (For Now >:) )
Motherboard
Gigabyte P43-ES3G
Memory
4x1GB OCZ Dual Channel RAM
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VH-236
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar-Blue 250 GB SATA
WD Caviar-Green 1.5 TB SATA
PSU
Raidmax RX-630SS
Case
Apevia X-Dreamer
Cooling
Case: Arctic Cooling CPU:Rosewill RCX Z2

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HP M9077c
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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Intel(R)Core(TM)2 quad [email protected] 2.39GHz
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ASUSeK
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6GB DDR2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 8500/512MB
Sound Card
Realtek High Def Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2408 LCD 24" widescreen
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Cooling
6 pack of Bud
Keyboard
MS wireless Inteli
Mouse
MS wireless Inteli
Net Card

After you said: "I did, however, have issues out of Windows 7 Ultimate x64, where it would BSOD at any given time. This I attribute to my network card, which is AT LEAST 6 years old, and has no 64-bit drivers. Or rather, SIGNED drivers."

I have to wonder, why not just get another net card? They're pretty cheap, and something makes me believe that if you went to the expense of changing Windows, you'ld consider the $25 100Mbps card.

Now, I don't know if this would solve your issue, but you DID say you were chatting...
 

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iBuyPower NZXT
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Microsoft Windows 10 Home Build 15036
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Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P55-UD3L
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(1) WDC WD5000AAKS-00D2B0 ATA Device (2) Seagate FreeAgent Go 250G USB Device
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Corsair H75 liquid cooler (Very easy to install, actually)
Internet Speed
60M cable modem-->Linksys E1200-->1Gbps net card
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Chrome
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This is probably the longest I've ever had a Windows machine run without having to restore it to scratch. I'm used to restoring to "factory" about every 2 yrs. I've run with Win7 since new in 2009 and only recently (Nov, '14) restored to clean up the machine from all my 'xperimenting. LOL!! I may never need another machine.

Upgraded to 10 when it was still free, then installed 2017 update.
Yea, I only wanted the non-microsoft services.
As for the startup programs, you can remove:
Java(TM) Platform SE Auto Updater 2.0
ATI Customer Care
QuickTime
iTunes
Adobe Acrobat.

You could probably also uncheck the catalyst control center, as mine is, but i'd leave it there for now.
That should make your comp start up a lot faster, and it might prevent a lock up.

As it is, my system starts up almost instantly, so startup time is no issue at all. Thanks, though. As for the non-Microsoft services...:
AMD External Events Utility, AODService, Apple Mobile Device, avast! Antivirus, avast! Mail Scanner, avast! Web Scanner, Bonjour Service, DriveHQ FileManagerFun, iPod Service, Steam Client Service, TabletServiceWacom. Some of them I'm going to disable right now, because I don't need them, ever.


Thanks, I'll try that out when I'm not busy playing games lol I'm fairly sure I already tried this a few weeks ago, though... After that, everything was fine up until last night. I'll try it again, anyways, just in case.

@PeaB4YouGo: I've considered this myself already, but just to be clear... I didn't pay a dime for my copies of Windows, I obtain them from certain sources I'd rather not mention here, because I'm almost 100% certain it's against forum rules. It's not that I condone piracy, I just don't see spending so much money on software. Hardware is a different story. I really do need/want a new network card, I just don't have the money at the time. Thanks for your input, though, highly appreciated.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4A77TD
Memory
4 GB (2x 2 GB) OCZ Gold DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Integrated VIA HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Polaroid TLX-03211b LCD TV
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1x Western Digital 80 GB
1x Western Digital 250 GB
1x Western Digital 500 GB
PSU
XFX 650W Gaming PSU
Case
XION
Cooling
Stock
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