External HD major slowdown - How do I find the cause?

Kemf

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Hi,

I have a 1TB external HD that has been great for the last 2 years. Now it runs very slowly. Movies are unwatchable; they play for .3 seconds and pause for 2 seconds in a continuous loop. I can't even navigate the file system in explorer without having to wait much longer than normal.

How do I diagnose the issue? All I can tell is that the drive still has ample space left (about 120 GB). Nothing on my internal HD is affected.
 

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Could be a number of reasons. I would start with the easiest and try a different USB cable and different ports on your computer. This alone might be enough to bring it back up to speed, if the reason for the slowdown was the port dropping down to USB 1.1 mode instead of 2.0.

IF this still doesn't work, we might need to look at the possibility of the drive interface in the external housing starting to go flaky. Are you able to strip the case down and connect the drive to an internal connector? Note that you don't need to physically mount the drive in your computer, so long as you can attach power and data cables to it. This eliminates the USB cable and the enclosure electronics, thus checking the drive function directly.
 

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Dwarf is right, it can be anything from a worn, flimsy usb cable to the known plague of Windows 7 usb slowdown bug. The bug however appears as i'vea learned only for Windows 7 without service pack or without built in service pack. So it doesn't help to just get service pack from windows update. To check that, connect the drive to different usb's to trick Windows into thinking it's a different one. If your drive is a "smart" drive it may also have an OS of it's own, and if by any chance it has a LAN port you can be certain that's the case. If it's not under warranty just open the case and try the hard disk itself like Dwarf said. Even if it appears to work properly you may want to run some test software on it - there will always be one available from the manufacturer.
 

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Kempf,
After following Dwarf's advice, do you still have problems?

His advice will help greatly in fault-isolation of your problem.

Thanks,
karl
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
It would also help if you mentioned the make and model of the drive.
 

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Hi;

Switching usb ports doesn't help and seems to make the problem worse. I've found a temporary solution; if I leave the hard drive plugged in for 20+ minutes the problem seems to go away. The drive is a Western Digital Elements 1TB External HD:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-WDBAAU0010HBK-NESN/dp/B002QEBMB4

I honestly don't know how to open up my laptop computer and run special connectors directly to the hard drive; I hope there is another way because I'm notoriously bad at putting things back together correctly!
 

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Kemf,

Be sure and use SPECCY to gather info:
Update your SevenForums System Specs
User CP (located on the top menu bar) |
Your Profile | Edit System Spec
(left-hand column)

To gather info, use Speccy (my favorite) or SIW or System Info

ADD the word laptop or desktop or netbook to the
“system manufacturer” block, for example,
Toshiba Satellite L305D notebook.

Provide full windows version info, for example:
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit

Use the “Other Info” block for Optical Reader,
Mouse, touchpad, wifi adapter, speakers, monitor, etc

Scroll down and click on SAVE CHANGES.
===========================================================

karl
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Kemf,
Have you considered replacing the power adapter for that drive?
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Hi; I updated my spec profile. I have not considered changing the power adapter; how can I test if that is the issue? (short of buying another one)

Because the drive seems to work better when it is plugged into the computer for more than 20 minutes I am led to believe that the issue is USB or connectivity related.
 

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If you think it is USB-related, then did you carry out each and every step that Dwarf suggested?

For that adapter, you are cheaper buying another one than building a test rig to test your present adapter under load conditions.
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Hi,

Could this be something as simple as a fragmented drive? Have you been able to check the drive for fragmentation? From a command prompt can you try run a chkdsk?

Regards,
Golden
 

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It isn't a fragmented drive because sometimes the same files will load quickly and other times they will load so slowly that they can't even be used.

I don't think I can do dwarf's procedure because I'm not good with tinkering on devices. My laptop is too precious to have to have to endure my tinkering capabilities
 

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Compaq C762NR Laptop
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MS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit SP1
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Hewlett-Packard 30D9 (CPU)
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3.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 266MHz (4-4-4-12)
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VA2431 Series (1920x1080@60Hz), Generic PnP Monitor (1280x80
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Conexant High Definition SmartAudio 221
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" 1200 x 800, 24" 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
156GB Hitachi Hitachi HTS542516K9SA00 (SATA)

Disk drive
Device Kind USB storage
Device Name Disk drive
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Comment WD Ext HDD 1021 USB Device
Location USB Mass Storage Device
Other Info
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L632H ATA Device
MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM0000
Perform all of Dwarf's steps that do not require you opening your laptop.

Just as a matter of question, have you ever taken the drive, its cable, its power adapter and connected same to another computer?
 

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MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
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AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
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6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
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High Definition Audio Device
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Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
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SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
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What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Yes, I connected the USB cable to each of my USB ports and the problem remained.

I haven't connected it to another computer; the next chance I'll have to do that is the 23rd of this month.
 

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MS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit SP1
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VA2431 Series (1920x1080@60Hz), Generic PnP Monitor (1280x80
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Conexant High Definition SmartAudio 221
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15.6" 1200 x 800, 24" 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
156GB Hitachi Hitachi HTS542516K9SA00 (SATA)

Disk drive
Device Kind USB storage
Device Name Disk drive
Vendor WD
Comment WD Ext HDD 1021 USB Device
Location USB Mass Storage Device
Other Info
Optical Drives
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L632H ATA Device
MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM0000
Actually, sounds like the drive may be having issues.
It may be doing a lot of error corrections when it is first powered on, hence the slow transfer and stuttering video.

I would look to see if there is an abnormal amount of drive activity each time it's powered on.
 

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