Format or Uninstall and Defrag.

simmyjiff

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Hello I hope I'm in the correct area, my apologies if not! My main internal drive is 1T, with 2 partitions, one has a capacity of 221 GB of which 113 GB is free (F) and the second is 241GB of which 151 GB is free (C), 'C' has a Windows 7 OS and 'F' is 8.1, (both 64 bit) I use 'C' solely for day to day stuff and 'F' for my Flight Simulator, I have dual boot facility.
I am in a position where I would like to reinstall all of my Flight Sim stuff, clean the drive, or Format?
If I Format Drive C: would I lose the OS and have to reinstall, or, alternatively might it be easier to uninstall all application not required and then to Defrag?
 

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Anything you format goes bye bye.

Just uninstall what you don`t want, run Ccleaner to cleanup the registry (it`s totally safe) then defrag the drive 2 to 3 times, more if still necessary.
 

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GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
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Anything you format goes bye bye.

Just uninstall what you don`t want, run Ccleaner to cleanup the registry (it`s totally safe) then defrag the drive 2 to 3 times, more if still necessary.

AddRam,
All the help I've seen you give here, and I have seen you give some good advice, I would not believe you would give the advise above. I have had to fix too many computers that have been bricked by Registry cleaners. Why would you suggest that? The OP could only save a few KBs on a drive that has 113/151GBs free?
 

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Dell Precision 15 7550 Workstation
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Windows 10 22H2 Pro
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Intel(R) Xeon W-10885M
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Dell
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2x 32 GB DDR4 ECC memory (128 GB max)
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Intel onboard GPU 1080p - Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q GPU 4K
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500 GB Corsair T500 main M2 SSD
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Logitech MX-25 Bluetooth
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MS
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Pale Moon 33.3.x x64 AVX2 build
I'll go along with CCleaner, have yet to have a computer 'bricked' by it. But then I run a full/deep up-to-date antivirus first followed by Malwarebytes. There are other cleaners that do indeed cause more problems but most times they want money to fix them.
 

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Microsoft
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Bill, you have 53 posts, when you get to 5,300, then you can comment on my advice, Thank You :)

Because I have used Ccleaner for years, never had an issue with it, and no one I know here ever has, I do not give out bad advice.

I did not say registry cleaners, I said Ccleaner, I would never suggest somehting I haven`t used for a very long time.

All it does is remove invalid keys and duplicates. Learn before you mock.

Come on man :)

Thank You for the backup Berton :D
 

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Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
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EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
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Realtek High Definition
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Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
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Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
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Chrome
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I apologize if I sounded disapproval but I personally would never recommend Any registry cleaner to save a few KBs. I have also used Ccleaner for years although I do not allow it to delete anything unless I know what is being deleted. I have to look at everything that's being deleted before I allow the process and most users out there don't know to do that.

Bill
 

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Dell Precision 15 7550 Workstation
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Windows 10 22H2 Pro
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Intel(R) Xeon W-10885M
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Dell
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2x 32 GB DDR4 ECC memory (128 GB max)
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Intel onboard GPU 1080p - Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q GPU 4K
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500 GB Corsair T500 main M2 SSD
1 TB Intel storage M2 SSD (6 TB max)
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Logitech MX-25 Bluetooth
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slow
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MS
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Pale Moon 33.3.x x64 AVX2 build
Ccleaner is a great program. I use it daily. Normal default setting to clean junk works great. Never had a problem with it doing the clean.

Ccleaner has the safest Registry Cleaner I know of but because it does do things to the registry one should check what it finds before removing things from the registry. I use the Registry portion seldom just because I don't need to.

Ccleaner also has a backup request before cleaning the registry and I recommend backing up when it request it. No program is perfect all the time so the backup is a smart move.

I have never had Ccleaner hurt any of my systems and I have used it for years.

I would never recommend any other program that fools with Windows 7 registry.

***What ever program one uses and I don't care what it is, you need to learn how to use it correctly.
 

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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
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LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
I have also used Ccleaner for years although I do not allow it to delete anything unless I know what is being deleted. I have to look at everything that's being deleted before I allow the process and most users out there don't know to do that.

Bill

I use CCleaner registry cleaner. I sometimes do a quick review then let it do the clean. I ALWAYS let it make a backup of what it is removing just in case but in years of use have never had to restore what CCleaner deleted.
 

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Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
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Dell USB
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Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
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Seamonkey
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PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Thanks for the support everyone.

As I said Bill, after you rack up 5000 posts, you are more then welcome to give advice.

Until that time, please keep your comments to the original poster, Thank You for your concern and apology :)
 

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Skylake Special #666
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Windows 10 Pro x64
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Intel Core i7 6700K
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Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
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EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
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Realtek High Definition
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AOC G2460PG
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
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Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
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Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
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Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
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Chrome
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Many things on this forum people disagree on but we disagree politely.

I don't think their is a need to defrag a hard drive sever times one right the other.
In my opinion is just a lot of wear and tear on a hard drive.

AddRAM and I disagree but that is okay.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
My point in this situation is to defrag after you remove a program, yes, once would be fine in this instance, maybe twice. A proper defraged drive should get it done in seconds.

Whenever I advise doing it 3 to 4 to 5 times it`s for the people who come claiming their PC is running extremely slow and hasn`t had a re install in years and they do not want to re install :)
 

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Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
My Apologies AddRam I was only trying to make the point that to save space cleaning the registry is not the way to go. And I'm sorry but I don't need 5000 posts to voice my opinion.
 

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Laptop
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Dell Precision 15 7550 Workstation
OS
Windows 10 22H2 Pro
CPU
Intel(R) Xeon W-10885M
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
2x 32 GB DDR4 ECC memory (128 GB max)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel onboard GPU 1080p - Quadro RTX 5000 Max-Q GPU 4K
Hard Drives
500 GB Corsair T500 main M2 SSD
1 TB Intel storage M2 SSD (6 TB max)
Mouse
Logitech MX-25 Bluetooth
Internet Speed
slow
Antivirus
MS
Browser
Pale Moon 33.3.x x64 AVX2 build
...I personally would never recommend Any registry cleaner....Bill
In another place, the techs are very clear on advising anyone in that other place -- do not use registry cleaners. However, I also have been using well-configured, well-setup registry cleaners and register editors cautiously, selectively -- and like the others here -- have had very few problems.
A related aside: I do not compress or compact the registry ever.
 

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Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
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Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
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desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
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1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
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AT&T DSL
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FF, GChrome, msIE
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AddRAM, did you ever try out Registrar Registry Manager? I have, it's pretty cool, I was able to root out license numbers no longer needed, and now the laptop I took to school only has free stuff on it.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
My Apologies AddRam I was only trying to make the point that to save space cleaning the registry is not the way to go. And I'm sorry but I don't need 5000 posts to voice my opinion.

To voice your opinion solely at me you do :)

Apology accepted ;)
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset

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Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
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2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
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