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Until recently, I always thought that a movie in full frame or standard frame meant the same thing, but apparently I was wrong, because some movie lists differentiate between them. I know that full frame is 4:3 (1.33:1), so what is the aspect ratio of standard frame?
 

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It's a long read, but Wikipedia explains aspect ratios quite nicely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

I personally don't see how you managed to split this into full & standard. At first it made me think of PAL (4:3; 1.33:1) vs NTSC (16:9; 1.77:1) but when I started reading the Wiki article I just got more confused as to how I could connect your question with the info from the page xD
 

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I'll take a look at the article, but PAL and NTSC are not aspect ratios, they are the frame rates of the films.
 

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Perhaps it would help a little for me to provide a link to the source of my question:

John Wayne Movie List

If you scroll down the far right hand column, I think that will see what I mean.
 

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My understanding is this...

Nowadays, full frame would mean an aspect ratio of [1]1.77:1 to 1.85:1 and widescreen or anamorphic would be [2]2.35:1 to 2.40:1

This means that when viewing the picture you either have it showing as [1]Full Screen or [2]Bordered (black bars, top & bottom).
 

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Sorry, but that is not correct. Anything over 1.55:1 is considered widescreen, full frame is 4:3 or 1.33:1. Anamorphic, as the name implies, simply means non-changing, and is generally linked with widescreen ratios. There is an awful lot that I don't know about questions of these sorts, but I do believe that I have this correct. Full screen has nothing to do with letterboxing or pillar boxing, except that pillar boxing is what occurs when it is shown on a wide screen monitor or TV. Letterboxing is the result of a wide screen film that is of a wider format than the screen is designed for.

EDIT: I was wrong with my definition of anamorphic, this is the definition that I found:
Anamorphic widescreen is a video process that horizontally squeezes a widescreen image so that it can be stored in a standard 4:3 aspect ratio DVD image frame. Compatible playback equipment can then re-expand the horizontal dimension to show the original widescreen image. In its current definition as a video term, it was originally devised for widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio television sets.
 
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I'll take a look at the article, but PAL and NTSC are not aspect ratios, they are the frame rates of the films.
I know that, but with PAL movies the resolution is usually 4:3, and for NTSC 16:9, at least in my country xD

I can see what you mean now, but I'm having a difficult time figuring out the difference...
 

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