GeForce 9500GT On A Crappy PC.

[Solarstarshines]

IMHO..... I think you should save up for a while

I understand you want to upgrade it but from reading these post.

You are just due for a new system period ,It's not worth upgrading if you can only support 2 gbs of ram

I would start off by maybe looking into decent Cpu, MoBo's and ram then off to a decent PSU then you can select a decent Vidcard as well

If you want to go real cheap use the case but i would go ahead and dump that too

with new hardware comes new cooling i could bet you you're bottom dollar that case is no good for cooling

So with that being said even though i left out alot of details don't rush anything just save be patient you will get further then investing in something that isn't worth it .

 

[MarcosFabian]

Thanks for your reply,
But am not longer able to get the RAM upgrades because my weak power supply.
I have to upgrade that first,
Because I originally just wanted a 9500GT,
But I realized that my power supply cannot handle it.
I don't want to risk anything so I went on Newegg.com and found these two power supply, but I don't know which one to get.

I could buy either one of these two.
But which one should I get?
Rosewill 350W - Newegg.com - Rosewill RV350 350W ATX 1.3 Power Supply

Rosewill Stallion 450W - Newegg.com - Rosewill Stallion Series RD450-2-SB 450W ATX V2.2 Power Supply

I doubt that the PSU would limit your RAM at all. The extra power needed for 2GB would be negligible.

I've never bought much of the Rosewill stuff, which is a Newegg house brand, but I'd suggest this alternative:

Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

(Antec Earthwatts 380). While its a 380W PSU, it is rated at 17A/15A on its two +12V lines. The 450W Rosewill is rated 14A/16A. It has the same price (including free shipping) as the Rosewill 450.

Great find!
The thing is that it is lower than the Rosewill psu.
But am with you with this one.
Rosewill seems like a shady company.
The Antec power unit has better reviews.

You think it could power the 9500GT and to 2GB's of RAM with a 380w psu?
I could possibly get these sticks.
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-5400PHU2-2GBNT

IMHO..... I think you should save up for a while

I understand you want to upgrade it but from reading these post.

You are just due for a new system period ,It's not worth upgrading if you can only support 2 gbs of ram

I would start off by maybe looking into decent Cpu, MoBo's and ram then off to a decent PSU then you can select a decent Vidcard as well

If you want to go real cheap use the case but i would go ahead and dump that too

with new hardware comes new cooling i could bet you you're bottom dollar that case is no good for cooling

So with that being said even though i left out alot of details don't rush anything just save be patient you will get further then investing in something that isn't worth it .

I know man,
In one more year and I'll be out of high school and I need to start saving up for a car and a laptop.

I just really want to upgrade this computer.

But after I upgrade this computer,
Am off to saving all my money for a future gaming rig.
But thanks for looking out man.
I am sorry for my stubbornness

 

[bobkn]

Great find!
The thing is that it is lower than the Rosewill psu.
But am with you with this one.
Rosewill seems like a shady company.
The Antec power unit has better reviews.

You think it could power the 9500GT and to 2GB's of RAM with a 380w psu?
I could possibly get these sticks.
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-5400PHU2-2GBNT

I suggest these instead:

2GB kit (1GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-5300 upgrades for HP - Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop/PC, CT736085 from Crucial.com

They're $40, but have free shipping, so they're $4 more expensive than the Gskill. I recommend Crucial to get the best compatibility.

The Antec PSU is ample for your system plus a 9500GT:

EVGA | Products 9 Series Family&sw=

(eVGA recommends 350W with at least 18A at +12V. The Antec is rated at a total of 32A at +12V. It's better than some cheap "550W" supplies.)

Let me add to the chorus: don't spend a lot of money trying to upgrade this system. Increasing the RAM is probably the best thing you can do, although it may not help much if you're trying to play games on the machine.

 

[WolfSoul]

Have you looked at a GT430?

 

[thefabe]

Before you decide on your upgrades check here for your PSU needs. Remeber it's not so much the wattage but the volts on the +12V rail(s) http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/135087-planning-upgrade-your-graphics-card-read-first.html
Fabe

 

[MarcosFabian]

Great find!
The thing is that it is lower than the Rosewill psu.
But am with you with this one.
Rosewill seems like a shady company.
The Antec power unit has better reviews.

You think it could power the 9500GT and to 2GB's of RAM with a 380w psu?
I could possibly get these sticks.
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-5400PHU2-2GBNT

I suggest these instead:

2GB kit (1GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-5300 upgrades for HP - Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop/PC, CT736085 from Crucial.com

They're $40, but have free shipping, so they're $4 more expensive than the Gskill. I recommend Crucial to get the best compatibility.

The Antec PSU is ample for your system plus a 9500GT:

EVGA | Products 9 Series Family&sw=

(eVGA recommends 350W with at least 18A at +12V. The Antec is rated at a total of 32A at +12V. It's better than some cheap "550W" supplies.)

Let me add to the chorus: don't spend a lot of money trying to upgrade this system. Increasing the RAM is probably the best thing you can do, although it may not help much if you're trying to play games on the machine.

Of course not mate,
All am going to get for this computer is RAM, a new power supply, and the graphics card.

Am really interested into getting this psu
Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

I just can't wait until I upgrade my computer.

Am wondering if I can play Resident Evil 5 after I do the upgrades?

Have you looked at a GT430?

I can't say I have,
Is it any better than EVGA 9500GT?

Before you decide on your upgrades check here for your PSU needs. Remeber it's not so much the wattage but the volts on the +12V rail(s) http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/135087-planning-upgrade-your-graphics-card-read-first.html
Fabe

I really like this psu.
What do you think mate?
This one:
Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

 

[WolfSoul]

9500 GT is quite an old card by nowaday's standards.. it works but I think the 430 is not far away in price and has higher speed and Windows 7 abilities (DX11 and such)

 

[Darician]

A GT 220, Radeon HD 5570, or GT 430 would all beat the 9500 GT in terms of performance and none require all that much of a power supply.

 

[nbkp]

Here are your motherboard specificatiocs: Motherboard Specifications, 945GCT-HM (Livermore8) Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (Canada - English)

If you want to upgrade anything, upgrade your processor. And then get a GT430 or a HD5670. Oh and I forgot RAM.

Otherwise save up for a new build (Athlon quad cores are only £60/$90!!!)

 

[MarcosFabian]

9500 GT is quite an old card by nowaday's standards.. it works but I think the 430 is not far away in price and has higher speed and Windows 7 abilities (DX11 and such)

And I thought a 9500GT was an great card.
I think I should just go with the GT 430 instead.
Because it's in my budget so it's awesome!

A GT 220, Radeon HD 5570, or GT 430 would all beat the 9500 GT in terms of performance and none require all that much of a power supply.

GT 430 it shall be!


Which one should I go with?
It's weird because there's two,
One is from ASUS and the other one is from EVGA.
Does the brand matter?
I kinda prefer EVGA but am not sure if the ASUS is better.

I got both here:
EVGA - Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1435-LR GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card

ASUS - Newegg.com - ASUS ENGT430/DI/1GD3(LP) GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

Here are your motherboard specificatiocs: Motherboard Specifications, 945GCT-HM (Livermore8) Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (Canada - English)

If you want to upgrade anything, upgrade your processor. And then get a GT430 or a HD5670. Oh and I forgot RAM.

Otherwise save up for a new build (Athlon quad cores are only £60/$90!!!)

All in good time,
I will begin building gaming rigs after I get a job fixing computers.

I might get one soon!

 

[WolfSoul]

People seem to prefer evga but Ive always had Asus (well.. my local shop down here in belgium doesn't have evga (yet))

 

[MarcosFabian]

People seem to prefer evga but Ive always had Asus (well.. my local shop down here in belgium doesn't have evga (yet))

Am going to do a bit more research on this card. (EVGA GT430)
It looks like it's wayy better than the 9500GT.
More bang for the buck?

 

[MarcosFabian]

I know am double posting,
Sorry for bumping for I just have a couple of more questions.

I came to a conclusion to buy all these parts for upgrades.

Graphics
XFX Radeon HD 5670 1GB DDR5
$99.99 + $4.99 Shipping

Power Supply
Antec EarthWatts 500W +12V RAILS
$49.99

Memory
CORSAIR 2x1GB DDR2 667
$35.99 + $0.99 Shipping

Thermal Compound
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
$8.98 + $1.99 Shipping

I decided to get the XFX 5670 DDR5 1GB instead.
GT 430 was already going to be $80 bucks so am not going to regret $30 more.

But, the mobo of my computer only has these available PCI-PCI-E slots:
(1/2) x PCI slots
(1/1) x PCI-E x16 slot
(1/1) x PCI-E x1 slot

My question is if the XFX 5670 will work on my PC?

 

[bobkn]

I know am double posting,
Sorry for bumping for I just have a couple of more questions.

I came to a conclusion to buy all these parts for upgrades.

Graphics
XFX Radeon HD 5670 1GB DDR5
$99.99 + $4.99 Shipping

Power Supply
Antec EarthWatts 500W +12V RAILS
$49.99

Memory
CORSAIR 2x1GB DDR2 667
$35.99 + $0.99 Shipping

Thermal Compound
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
$8.98 + $1.99 Shipping

I decided to get the XFX 5670 DDR5 1GB instead.
GT 430 was already going to be $80 bucks so am not going to regret $30 more.

But, the mobo of my computer only has these available PCI-PCI-E slots:
(1/2) x PCI slots
(1/1) x PCI-E x16 slot
(1/1) x PCI-E x1 slot

My question is if the XFX 5670 will work on my PC?

It ought to work in the PCI-E X16 slot. (It's a PCI-E 2.1 X16 card, but backwards compatible with the older X16 slots.)

I'm not sure that you'll gain much in buying the 1GB version, but as it's only about $20 more than the 512MB version, why not?

What's the Arctic Cooling MX-2 for? Are you refreshing the thermal compound on your CPU?

 

[MarcosFabian]

Well,
I've done more research lately and am sure it should be compatible.

Does it make any difference between 1GB or 512MB?

Am getting thermal compound so I can replace the heatsink with a stock intel heatsink.
I just think that that the intel heatsink is better than mines.

Here's a picture of the PC
http://i56.tinypic.com/2jam6hg.jpg

 

[bobkn]

1GB of video RAM is useful in 3D games running at high screen resolutions. I don't know how much use it would be with with a 5670, particularly when driven by a wimpy CPU.

I also don't know whether a stock Intel CPU would be an advance over the heatsink/fan in your setup. The Intel HS/F isn't known for high performance.

You obviously want to play. Don't get too carried away with expenses on that old system.

 

[MarcosFabian]

1GB of video RAM is useful in 3D games running at high screen resolutions. I don't know how much use it would be with with a 5670, particularly when driven by a wimpy CPU.

I also don't know whether a stock Intel CPU would be an advance over the heatsink/fan in your setup. The Intel HS/F isn't known for high performance.

You obviously want to play. Don't get too carried away with expenses on that old system.

True,
Am getting a 512MB graphics card instead.
So that will save me $20 for a better heatsink.
This one:
Newegg.com - EVERCOOL HPFI-10025 100mm Ever Lubricate CPU Cooler

The PC is not that old,
It's just outdated.
IMO
But all in good time, I might be getting a job soon on this kinds of things in which I enjoy doing.
So am sure in the near future I will build many better PC's then this one.

 

[bobkn]

1GB of video RAM is useful in 3D games running at high screen resolutions. I don't know how much use it would be with with a 5670, particularly when driven by a wimpy CPU.

I also don't know whether a stock Intel CPU would be an advance over the heatsink/fan in your setup. The Intel HS/F isn't known for high performance.

You obviously want to play. Don't get too carried away with expenses on that old system.

True,
Am getting a 512MB graphics card instead.
So that will save me $20 for a better heatsink.
This one:
Newegg.com - EVERCOOL HPFI-10025 100mm Ever Lubricate CPU Cooler

The PC is not that old,
It's just outdated.
IMO
But all in good time, I might be getting a job soon on this kinds of things in which I enjoy doing.
So am sure in the near future I will build many better PC's then this one.

I'm not familiar with that heatsink, but it looks like a good deal. There's a popular one out there:

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

(Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus), but It's about $38 shipped, vs. $22 for the Evercool unit.

I doubt than a new HS/F is needed, unless your PC permits overclocking. Most appliance PCs don't.

 

[MarcosFabian]

Am not going to overclock because, so I rather stick with the Evercool heatsink. It`s going to be a major upgrade than what I have now for a great value

 

[Solarstarshines]

if youre not going to overclock dont get an aftermarket cooler, just use the stock cooler that comes with the processor.

and for your processor i would go amd, amd is cheaper than intel, for similar performance.

ati usually has the best price for performance card thus having a budget gamer in mind.

get something better or matching with a 48xx card or a 57xx card, make sure that it has ddr5 memory as it is better than ddr3 (let alone ddr2).
anything below that you wont be happy with.. destroys a good gaming experience and the money spent (for a cheap card) just isnt worth it.

if i were you i would get a Newegg.com - HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity (130 dollars for 800 stream processing units made by a high quality manufacturer, with mail in rebate you get it for 99 dollars.).

and also, get a card from a true ati manufacturer (dont buy from powercolor, biostar or those cheap things, even if the reviews are great, dont buy from those. the money that you save from those cards is not worth the headache taht might come with the cheapness involving the creation of such a card).

i recommend sapphire(my opinion), or xfx(good warranty) and HIS(best cooling) brands.

You forgot about DIAMOND lol that brand has been around and i been useing nothing but diamond also a few xfx cards as well