Genuine Windows and Windows 10

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This week we shared more details about Windows 10 “editions.” Today, I thought I would provide answers to some questions we’ve received regarding how this will work for Genuine vs. Non-Genuine Windows.

With Windows 10, we have extended an offer to our Genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers to upgrade to Windows 10 for free. Once a customer upgrades, they will continue to receive ongoing Windows innovation and security updates for free, for the supported lifetime of that device.

These customers purchased their Genuine Windows license from our valued OEM partners, which ensures Windows is properly installed, licensed, and not tampered with. Windows 10 offers our customers an even more secure and modern experience. Bringing all of our customers to Windows 10 improves the ecosystem for developers which makes Windows better for all of our customers. We are working hard to make the in-place upgrade experience from Windows 7 or Windows 8, to Windows 10, seamless for the customer. Throughout the Windows world, I am humbled by the excitement being associated with this opportunity to upgrade to Windows 10.

When we can’t verify that Windows is properly installed, licensed, and not tampered with, we create a desktop watermark to notify the user. If you ever encounter this watermark on a new machine, I encourage you to return the device immediately to the retailer from whom you purchased it and request a Genuine Windows device. Non-Genuine Windows has a high risk of malware, fraud, public exposure of your personal information, and a higher risk for poor performance or feature malfunctions. Non-Genuine Windows is not supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner.

Microsoft and our OEM partners know that many consumers are unwitting victims of piracy, and with Windows 10, we would like all of our customers to move forward with us together. While our free offer to upgrade to Windows 10 will not apply to Non-Genuine Windows devices, and as we’ve always done, we will continue to offer Windows 10 to customers running devices in a Non-Genuine state. In addition, in partnership with some of our valued OEM partners, we are planning very attractive Windows 10 upgrade offers for their customers running one of their older devices in a Non-Genuine state. Please stay tuned to learn more from our partners on the specifics of their offers.

Windows 10 is still in development and we won’t be able to answer all questions yet, but I hope this provides some clarification on important topics. If you’d like to help shape the future of Windows and contribute to Windows 10, please join the Windows Insider Program, where you can download technical previews of Windows 10 and provide us valuable feedback.

Thank you for your support of Windows and our Windows partners by choosing genuine Windows 10.

Terry
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Source: Genuine Windows and Windows 10
 

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Looks like non genuine installs will get a discount. And Genuine is a free upgrade.
 

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I'm now confused. When the opportunity arises, please explain this statement further.

"With Windows 10, we have extended an offer to our Genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers to upgrade to Windows 10 for free. Once a customer upgrades, they will continue to receive ongoing Windows innovation and security updates for free, for the supported lifetime of that device."

Does that mean if I upgrade my PC during this free offer period, I won't have to pay for W10 ever on this system unit? What is the start and end date of this free offer? Thanks.
 

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I wonder what are they gonna do to detect non-genuine installs... I don't know why, but I feel they will check this state the same way they did when you wanted to download XP Mode... and if that's the case, I feel this version will be free for everyone ha! Well, at least I feel Windows 7 users have a better chance to upgrade for free anyways... you know *coughloaderorSLICactivations*...

I really hope this works for both consumer and them... Windows 8 proved to be a fail in every aspect, Windows 10 seems to improve, but not that much (still trying to shove that store thing on our throats)... Personally, if my OEM laptop is worthy for upgrade, I guess I will give it a try, the Technical Previews aren't that bad, and certainly, in some cases, it even gets better performance than Windows 7 (not too much, but still)...
 

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jamis said:
I'm now confused. When the opportunity arises, please explain this statement further.

"With Windows 10, we have extended an offer to our Genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers to upgrade to Windows 10 for free. Once a customer upgrades, they will continue to receive ongoing Windows innovation and security updates for free, for the supported lifetime of that device."

Does that mean if I upgrade my PC during this free offer period, I won't have to pay for W10 ever on this system unit? What is the start and end date of this free offer? Thanks.
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The way I understand it, Yes. Windows 10 inherits the current license of the OS on the PC your upgrading. Example, if its a Windows 7 OEM install your Windows 10 will licensed and free for the life of that device. That Windows 10 install will also be non transferable to any other device. That's my spin on it anyway.

EDIT: As far as I know that one year period is from the official release date of Windows 10.
 

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I'm pretty sure they'll be looking for any SLIC loader activations. It's not like they don't know what people are doing to cheat activation.
 

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alphanumeric said:
I'm pretty sure they'll be looking for any SLIC loader activations. It's not like they don't know what people are doing to cheat activation.
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Just as long as Microsoft accepts Oemslp pre-activation for windows 10 and not turn off those who choose to keep windows 7. See Dell & others Oems use one Oemslp pre-activated key that can't be activated online. That key is used on more than one system though.
 

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I have done a clean install of Windows 7 using Dell re-installation disk (Dell sent me one). I also use Free Macrium reflect backup and restore.
groze said:
alphanumeric said:
I'm pretty sure they'll be looking for any SLIC loader activations. It's not like they don't know what people are doing to cheat activation.
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Just as long as Microsoft accepts Oemslp pre-activation for windows 10 and not turn off those who choose to keep windows 7. See Dell & others Oems use one Oemslp pre-activated key that can't be activated online. That key is used on more than one system though.
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Yes I know, I think I'm the one that told you that.

A SLIC loader is a trick to fool Windows into thinking its installed on a PC that has a SLIC table in the BIOS when it really doesn't. It's not the same thing as the real OEM activation. Can't say much more about it or I could get into trouble with the forum moderators. Piracy is a forbidden subject.

What Microsoft could do is make you type in the code on the OEM COA sticker. OEM PC's will have it, the fakes won't. Problem solved, sort of. The downside is if the sticker is worn or scratched and you can't make out the product code. Then your in a pickle.
 

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"Very attractive offers"

Gee I hope that also applies to new 10 oem's instead of just upgrading offers.
I doubt I'll ever wipe out 7 just for 10 where's the fun in that.
 

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I'm still on the fence as far as using Windows 10 full time goes. I'll upgrade, run it for a while and have a look see. Then maybe keep it. I don't like the new Start menu/screen all that much. AMD needs to fix the CCC issues too or its a no go on my laptop. I have MSDN so I'll get product codes anyway. I'll initially do upgrades just to see how and if it works. I've had issues with upgrading to 10 in the past. After that it will be clean installs when needed.
 

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Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
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VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
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Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
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Thermaltake TR 620
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Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
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Stock heatsink and fan
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Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
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Windows Defender
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Internet Explorer 11
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HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
ThrashZone said:
"Very attractive offers"

Gee I hope that also applies to new 10 oem's instead of just upgrading offers.
I doubt I'll ever wipe out 7 just for 10 where's the fun in that.
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Um, hope "what" also applies to new 10 OEM installs? Did I miss something?
 

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Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
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Windows Defender
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Internet Explorer 11
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HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Yes like I stated an upgrade is not what I'm interested in.
 

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Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
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PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
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2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
I still don't follow? If its a new Windows 10 OEM install there is no upgrade involved? Windows 10 is already installed. Maybe the "OEM" in your statement is confusing me? Do you mean buying Windows 10 outright, and hoping its also discounted? That would normally be a Retail version not an OEM version. When you say OEM like that I think Dell, HP, etc.
 

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Windows 10 Education 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
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Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Most retailers sell oem's Newegg/ .... so yes outright purchase.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
ThrashZone said:
Most retailers sell oem's Newegg/ .... so yes outright purchase.
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Gotcha now. If they want that one billion devices, they may have to sweeten the pot, so that may happen.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Yea sorry I believe the correct term is system builders not oem :)
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
ThrashZone said:
Yea sorry I believe the correct term is system builders not oem :)
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Yes, That's what they call it now. If you had said that originally, I would have clued in right away. I figured out what you meant to say eventually so no harm no foul. I bought OEM from Tiger Direct when I purchased Windows 7 for my home built desktop PC. I am my own tech Support so I didn't need to buy Retail. That was before I was an MVP. Now I get free product codes and can run whatever I want for evaluation.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
:thumbsup:
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
alphanumeric said:
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What Microsoft could do is make you type in the code on the OEM COA sticker. The downside is if the sticker is worn or scratched and you can't make out the product code. Then your in a pickle.
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Which do you mean, Type in key for windows 10 install or type in key to keep windows 7? I did some experimenting and did use the key once. When digital rivers was available, I downloaded the 32 bit isos for windows 7. I used that for awhile before deciding to do another clean install and go back to 64 bit windows 7 using the dell re-installation disk (That dell sent me). My motherboard was also replaced under warranty. The 16 bit software didn't work to well on my system. I may have to do a phone activation.

I have tested the 32 bit of windows 10. It seems 16 bit software work a little better on that system, do not know why.


I always write the key down when I first get my system.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell All in one Inspiron 2020
OS
W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620T @ 2.40GHz, 2400 Mhz
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD graphics
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
20 inch Screen
Screen Resolution
W7=1280 x 720 & Linux Mint Xfce=1360 x 768
Hard Drives
500 GB hard drive
Keyboard
Usb
Mouse
Usb
Internet Speed
High-Speed
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Main Browser Firefox
Other Info
I have done a clean install of Windows 7 using Dell re-installation disk (Dell sent me one). I also use Free Macrium reflect backup and restore.
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