Graphics card causing boot problem

EzioAuditore

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Hello Everyone.
Well, coming to the issue, my pc doesn`t boots up in the first try. It gets stuck after the "Starting windows" logo with a black screen. However, when i press the restart button, it boots up correctly. Okay, i think that`s may be confusing, so, here`s my problem explained in steps-
1. I pushed the start button on the cpu case.
2. Things go nicely until the "Starting windows" screen.
3. After this, just a black screen (not the black screen of death, it just stops booting with a black screen and the red led on the case stops blinking)
4. I pressed the restart button. It booted nicely.
5. The problem doesn`t appear as long as i`m only restarting or logging on/off but as soon as i press shut down or sleep option, the same problem happens.
I`ve a XFX HD Radeon 4350 1GB card. I tried re-connecting the vga cable to the card`s slot to no avail. GPU-Z reads its location at PCIe which means its in the PCIe slot. I tried changing the bios settings, "Init display first" to PEG and "Onboard VGA" to Enable if no exist PEG" thus disabling the onboard VGA but it too doesn`t help. Oh yeah, i forgot to tell that the problem doesn`t appear when my monitor is hooked to the onboard graphics card.
One thing i know for sure now is that the issue has something to do with the add-in card. But i`m out of ideas now. Tried upgrading and downgrading it`s drivers to no avail. Played with bios sett., didn`t help. Its so annoying that I`ve to always wait for the black screen just to press restart button and again wait for it to boot
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. Thanks in advance.
My specs: Intel core 2 duo E7400 @ 2.8GHz
Motherboard- Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
BIOS- Latest version
3GB Memory
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
It sounds like you might have a bad card, or do you know the wattage on your power supply?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Pugh Technologies
OS
W7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.10 GHz
Motherboard
MSI 870A-G54
Memory
PNY XLR DDR3 1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 (fermi) 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE205t, Viewsonic VX2035WM
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1600x1050
Hard Drives
977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAJS-00A8B0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0
PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
Case
ThermalTake Armor A90 Mid Tower
Cooling
3x 120mm in, 1x 120mm & 200mm out, self built hydro-cooler
Keyboard
Logitec 55
Mouse
Razer Deathadder
Internet Speed
20 Mbps D/L, 9 Mbps U/L
It has become 2 months old today. And considering the fact that i don't mess with my cpu casing and neither its overclocked, i don't think the card is bad.
About the power supply, i don't know. I just have an UPS for powering the machine. How do i find the wattage supply?
And yeah, thanks for replying atleast.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
Age has almost nothing to do with the likeliness that a card can go bad. I've had a brand new card die in a week. It's usually oversights in the quality control department, or a bad component that failed too early.

Your power supply is inside the computer. What brand and model is your computer, if you cannot open the case and see a wattage listed on the power supply itself?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Pugh Technologies
OS
W7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.10 GHz
Motherboard
MSI 870A-G54
Memory
PNY XLR DDR3 1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 (fermi) 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE205t, Viewsonic VX2035WM
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1600x1050
Hard Drives
977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAJS-00A8B0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0
PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
Case
ThermalTake Armor A90 Mid Tower
Cooling
3x 120mm in, 1x 120mm & 200mm out, self built hydro-cooler
Keyboard
Logitec 55
Mouse
Razer Deathadder
Internet Speed
20 Mbps D/L, 9 Mbps U/L
I just have an UPS for powering the machine

My suggestion is to try using a powersrtip and plug your system diirectly into your household current and see if the problem persists.
Just wondering if it takes the UPS a bit to provide enough power to power it on correctly.
Fabe
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
CPU
intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz
Motherboard
Asus P5ND bios 1401
Memory
8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition
Sound Card
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080p @60Hz
Hard Drives
WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue
PSU
OCZ 700W GameXtreme
Case
NZXT Apollo
Cooling
Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram
Keyboard
Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000
Mouse
Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000
Internet Speed
Download 19.83 Upload 0.97
Other Info
Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External
@liquidsnak
If a bad card's the case, then i'm fortunate that the card is under warranty.
Regarding the make, it's a HCL EzeeBee pc. On the CPU's carton, its written as "4097AZ155814 EZEEBEE TOP Z321 C2D"
And since i cant open the case, is there any way (s/w) to determine the PSU? Do i provide the details of the UPS? Will that be of any help?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
I just have an UPS for powering the machine
My suggestion is to try using a powersrtip and plug your system diirectly into your household current and see if the problem persists.Just wondering if it takes the UPS a bit to provide enough power to power it on correctly.Fabe
will try that too... btw, on the back of UPS, its written:
input-220V
output-220V
power-600VA (just if it could be of any help)
This problem emerged just few weeks ago. So, i don't think there's something wrong with the UPS.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
So from what I have been able to look up, HCL is basically like an HP or similar in the US? If so, your power supply might be a low wattage, just enough to power the machine. But there is no way for me to be sure that can be an issue without knowing the rating.

Let us know how it goes without the UPS, just the power strip :)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Pugh Technologies
OS
W7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.10 GHz
Motherboard
MSI 870A-G54
Memory
PNY XLR DDR3 1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 (fermi) 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE205t, Viewsonic VX2035WM
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1600x1050
Hard Drives
977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAJS-00A8B0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0
PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
Case
ThermalTake Armor A90 Mid Tower
Cooling
3x 120mm in, 1x 120mm & 200mm out, self built hydro-cooler
Keyboard
Logitec 55
Mouse
Razer Deathadder
Internet Speed
20 Mbps D/L, 9 Mbps U/L
Plugged the cables directly into the household sockets.. Didn't help.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
Since it is an aftermarket GPU, you have opened the case up before, yes?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Pugh Technologies
OS
W7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.10 GHz
Motherboard
MSI 870A-G54
Memory
PNY XLR DDR3 1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 (fermi) 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE205t, Viewsonic VX2035WM
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1600x1050
Hard Drives
977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAJS-00A8B0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0
PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
Case
ThermalTake Armor A90 Mid Tower
Cooling
3x 120mm in, 1x 120mm & 200mm out, self built hydro-cooler
Keyboard
Logitec 55
Mouse
Razer Deathadder
Internet Speed
20 Mbps D/L, 9 Mbps U/L
By case you mean the cpu case no? It's been opened only once when the card was to be installed.. Just once..
And i saw that at the back of psu, its written 230V AC only. Only this much info I've about my current psu.. Don't know more than that... I can try opening the case but am sure i wont be able to put it back.
Also when the starting windows is about to disappear and the black screen is to arrive, the keyboard lights flash twice and then goes off. The light wont lite up even when i press caps or scroll or num key. I've set the boot to not stop for keyboard errors (well, my keyboard isn't bad. It works nicely) in the bios..
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
Do you have any paperwork on your purchase or some place on th PC where you can give us the entire model # so we could possibly look up the specs?
Thanks. Fabe
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
CPU
intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz
Motherboard
Asus P5ND bios 1401
Memory
8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition
Sound Card
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080p @60Hz
Hard Drives
WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue
PSU
OCZ 700W GameXtreme
Case
NZXT Apollo
Cooling
Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram
Keyboard
Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000
Mouse
Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000
Internet Speed
Download 19.83 Upload 0.97
Other Info
Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
It didn't exhibit this behavior for the first month or so, worked normally until a few weeks ago?

If you have had your computer on for a couple of hours, then turn it OFF, wait a few seconds and then turn it back on, does it still exhibit the same behavior?

Just wondering is this happens only when the machine has cooled down a bit.

Ap
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled in my workshop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 3.00gHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Sound Card
RME 24/96 Card, Realtek Internal Audio PreSonus FireStudio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 1917 (x2)
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 on both monitors
Hard Drives
Three 250GB Seagate SATA Barracuda 7200rpm
PSU
Rosewill 500-watt
Case
Rosewill mid-tower
Cooling
Noctua NH-U9B (CPU), PwrSupply fan + single large case Fan
Keyboard
Macally w/2/USB ports.
Mouse
Trackman Wheel
Other Info
Event 20/20 bas studio monitors, Yamaha sub.
Rackmount Korg/Roland/Yamaha synthesizers,
Cubase MIDI/audio recording. Sony Soundforge audio/mastering software. CD Architect Mastering. RME & Presonus audio interfaces.
@Aphelion
Nope.. Temperature seems to have no effect on the issue.. It happens every now and then irrespective of the temp.
Btw, today i got a couple of BSoD's also. I tried bluescreenview to view them but it doesn't read the crash dump files. The blue screens very likely are related to the card. Not sure though as i only get a glimpse of it. Should i upload the .dmp files here?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
Yes, zip up the .dmp files and attach them. This will be very helpful :)

Also, I am not entirely certain how a GPU fit in that case. Could you measure it and give me some external dimensions of the case? From that photo it looks like the case is no wider than a 10 key!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Pugh Technologies
OS
W7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.10 GHz
Motherboard
MSI 870A-G54
Memory
PNY XLR DDR3 1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 (fermi) 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE205t, Viewsonic VX2035WM
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1600x1050
Hard Drives
977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAJS-00A8B0
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0
PSU
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
Case
ThermalTake Armor A90 Mid Tower
Cooling
3x 120mm in, 1x 120mm & 200mm out, self built hydro-cooler
Keyboard
Logitec 55
Mouse
Razer Deathadder
Internet Speed
20 Mbps D/L, 9 Mbps U/L
How do i zip those files? Everytime i get error i.e. it's being used by another program. Tried in safe mode too. Didn't work.
And btw, my cpu cabinet's dimensions are 580x455x240 (mm)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh
Oh i totally forgot about the permission thingy :P

Here's the zip, password-8574 (if asked)
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HCL
OS
Winbdows 7 ultimate x64 | Ubuntu 12.04 x64 LTS
CPU
Core 2 Duo e7400 @ 2.90GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte G31M-ES2L
Memory
3GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Nvidia GTX 560Ti 1GB
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
HCL eZeeBee 18.5" LCD
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
PSU
Corsair CX500 V2 500W
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Stock
Mouse
Stock
Internet Speed
15-25kBps D/L | 10kBps U/L | Hey Don't laugh

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600K OC'd @ 4620 MHz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
Memory
16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2x Acer S273HLbmii 27"
Screen Resolution
2 x 1920x1080
Hard Drives
64GB Crucial M4 SSD

Storage: Hitachi 1TB 5400RPM, Samsung 1.5TB 5400RPM
PSU
Corsair HW Series 750w (modular)
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition
Cooling
CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK320 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK320 (wireless)
Internet Speed
30 Mb/s : 2 Mb/s
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