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Hi,

I recently purchased a Toshiba R700 notebook. It came with a i3 32 bit windows 7 pro OS installed. I installed the 64 bit OS a few days later (both were available with this notebook.

I was looking at my HDD and noticed it was partitioned into 3 parts. A 1.46GB recovery partition, 453.22 GB of boot, page file, etc. and 11.8GB Primary Partition.

Can anyone explain why I need 3 partitions? It has me confused..

Thanks in advance for your support.

Don
 

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PORTEGE R700 -- Toshiba/R700 S-1312
OS
Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)
Memory
4096MB RAM
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Internal LCD (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) HD Graphics
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Realtek High Definition Audio
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Chipset: Intel(R) GMA 950, 60Hz, Raster,120DPI,32 Bit Color
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Synaptics PS/2 Port Touchpad
Hi,

I recently purchased a Toshiba R700 notebook. It came with a i3 32 bit windows 7 pro OS installed. I installed the 64 bit OS a few days later (both were available with this notebook.

I was looking at my HDD and noticed it was partitioned into 3 parts. A 1.46GB recovery partition, 453.22 GB of boot, page file, etc. and 11.8GB Primary Partition.

Can anyone explain why I need 3 partitions? It has me confused..
The 1.46GB recovery partition is probably from Toshiba, and would allow you to recover your main large Win7 partition (using the recovery disks you should also have been given or created), to restore it back to "factory" in the event of disaster.

The 453GB partition is obviously your C-partition.

The 11.8GB partition is unknown just yet, but it might be the "system reserved" partition. However it's very large for that purpose, if that's what it is. Are you sure it's that large? Not quite small, i.e. only 100MB?

Anyway, can you post a screenshot of a fullscreen out of DISKMGMT.MSC, with columns and separators spread a bit so that we can see what all the partitions on your disk look like.

Thanks.
 

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Home-built, two systems (1) and (2)
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
CPU
i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2)
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ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2)
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(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS; 2TB external USB 3.0
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Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2)
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Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2)
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The 11 gig partition could also be a "Toshiba Tools" type of thing that you may or may not need to keep around.
 

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Hi,

I recently purchased a Toshiba R700 notebook. It came with a i3 32 bit windows 7 pro OS installed. I installed the 64 bit OS a few days later (both were available with this notebook.

I was looking at my HDD and noticed it was partitioned into 3 parts. A 1.46GB recovery partition, 453.22 GB of boot, page file, etc. and 11.8GB Primary Partition.

Can anyone explain why I need 3 partitions? It has me confused..
The 1.46GB recovery partition is probably from Toshiba, and would allow you to recover your main large Win7 partition (using the recovery disks you should also have been given or created), to restore it back to "factory" in the event of disaster.

The 453GB partition is obviously your C-partition.

The 11.8GB partition is unknown just yet, but it might be the "system reserved" partition. However it's very large for that purpose, if that's what it is. Are you sure it's that large? Not quite small, i.e. only 100MB?

Anyway, can you post a screenshot of a fullscreen out of DISKMGMT.MSC, with columns and separators spread a bit so that we can see what all the partitions on your disk look like.

Thanks.

Screen shot posted.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PORTEGE R700 -- Toshiba/R700 S-1312
OS
Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)
Memory
4096MB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Internal LCD (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Chipset: Intel(R) GMA 950, 60Hz, Raster,120DPI,32 Bit Color
Screen Resolution
1300/768
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050B9A300
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port Touchpad
Screen shot posted.
Thanks.

That 11GB partition is definitely not the "system reserved" partition. It's not marked "active", so it is not "booted to by the BIOS". It may actually be the recovery partition from Toshiba, since it's pretty sizable.

In a 1-OS strictly Win7 environment installed-from-scratch on a brand new empty hard drive, the "system reserved" partition is typically allocated at small 100MB size by the Win7 installer And this is where the Win7 boot loader files are normally placed, and this partition is marked as "active".

So actually, it looks like that 1.46GB partition could be for that "Win7 boot loader" purpose, as it is shown as the "active" partition, meaning that's where the BIOS goes when the machine boots. It's larger than normal, but it is the "active" partition... and that means that's where the Win7 boot loader files must be located. Definitely not the Toshiba recovery partition.

I'd suggest you download and install Paritition Wizard (free) Home Edition v5.2 along with its standalone boot CD which you can burn by downloading this ISO file. The program itself runs under Win7, so you can see drive letters. The standalone boot CD is for emergencies, disaster/recovery, and for partition-related operations that cannot be performed while the Win7 operating system is active but must be run while standalone booted.

Anyway, if you run the program while booted to Win7, and select that 1.6GB partition (even though it has no drive letter), on the left side of the PW interface there is a major category called "Operations", and in that group is a function named "Explore Partition". If you select it, you will get a popup window showing you the contents of that partition.

For example, on my 100MB "system reserved" partition the presentation shown by using PW's "Explore Partition" looks as follows:

systemreserved.jpg


You can then select your other 11GB "healthy primary" partition and then "Explore Partition", to see what its contents are. I suspect this may be the Toshiba recovery partition, but exploring it with PW should let you know for sure.

Note that the BIOS boots to that 1.6GB partition because it is marked as the "active" partition on the drive, where the Win7 boot loader files are located. Then the boot loader program from that partition actually examines its "boot menu" and because you only have one [default] OS on that menu, boots directly over to the large partition in which Win7 itself lives (because you only have 1 bootable OS defined, namely Win7).

Had you had multiple bootable OS's (in multiple bootable partitions on that drive) the Win7 boot manager would instead have presented a menu to you, allowing you to select which OS on that list you actually wanted to boot to.
 

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Home-built, two systems (1) and (2)
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Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
CPU
i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2)
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8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD7750 (1), (see TV cards); ATI R7 250 (2)
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2)
Monitor(s) Displays
Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2)
Screen Resolution
1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2)
Hard Drives
(1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2x2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS; 2x2TB external USB 3.0

(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS; 2TB external USB 3.0
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Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2)
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Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2)
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Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2)
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Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2)
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Microsoft Security Essentials; Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Pro
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Firefox
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Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC
HDD Partitions

Thanks dsperber. I just saved a mirror image so now I'll try your recommendation. I used paragon backup and restore program. I wonder if it has any tools to see files in each partition?? It does show that the small partition used 9gb and 2gb free.

Don
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PORTEGE R700 -- Toshiba/R700 S-1312
OS
Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)
Memory
4096MB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Internal LCD (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Chipset: Intel(R) GMA 950, 60Hz, Raster,120DPI,32 Bit Color
Screen Resolution
1300/768
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050B9A300
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port Touchpad
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Interesting....

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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PORTEGE R700 -- Toshiba/R700 S-1312
OS
Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)
Memory
4096MB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Internal LCD (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Chipset: Intel(R) GMA 950, 60Hz, Raster,120DPI,32 Bit Color
Screen Resolution
1300/768
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050B9A300
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port Touchpad

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PORTEGE R700 -- Toshiba/R700 S-1312
OS
Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)
Memory
4096MB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Internal LCD (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Chipset: Intel(R) GMA 950, 60Hz, Raster,120DPI,32 Bit Color
Screen Resolution
1300/768
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050B9A300
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port Touchpad

I now know what this is. I created 4 CDs using window media. It allows me to boot up either the 32 or 64 system.
I don't understand how/what this partition got to be 1.6GB... instead of the usual 100MB of a "system reserved" partition (which normally only contains the Win7 boot manager files in a 1-OS enviroment).

Also, what is in that other 11GB partition?

Also, you can use Partition Wizard to reconfigure the large C-partition if you want, for example into a C and D. You could shrink the partition down to maybe 60GB (or whatever size might seem appropriate, depending on what you plan to store in your \Users documents and Appdata).

Then, you could allocate a new partition D to the remaining newly available freespace, for say "data". It's not a second physical drive, but it is a second partition, which makes a subsequent re-install of Win7 a bit less intrusive in terms of concern for preserving user data.


Note that a standard "basic" hard drive is limited to FOUR PRIMARY PARTITIONS. You've already got THREE PRIMARY PARTITIONS, so shrinking C and creating a new partition from the freespace would be hitting that physical maximum of FOUR PRIMARY PARTITIONS... if you actually went ahead and allocated that newly available freespace into just ONE NEW PRIMARY PARTITION. That's it... now four.

But, if instead you allocated the new D partition in that freespace as a "LOGICAL" partition instead of a "PRIMARY" partition, that implies that you want the freespace to be constructed as what's called an "extended partition", which is a "primary" type of partition but which can support any number of "logical" partitions inside of it.

So you would end up having the 1.6GB primary partition, say a 60GB primary partition as C, an "extended partition (primary type) of several hundred GB, and then a fourth primary partition of 11GB (whatever's in there, probably Toshiba stuff).

Inside of that "extended partition" you would have your D partition (of "logical" type, not primary, but it makes no real difference to you). Or, you could allocate ANY NUMBER of "logical" partitions inside of that one "extended partition" (D, E, F, etc.) if you wanted to further subdivide your "user data".

Other than the "active" (i.e. bootable) primary partition, and the standard Win7 partition built by the Win7 installer on a new empty drive which also ends up being a primary partition, there really is no other need or requirement for "primary" partition types. Given that these are limited to a maximum of FOUR per hard drive, you can understand why this has to be a consideration.

In contrast, you really do NOT ever have to allocate new partitions as "primary". They can be allocated as "logical", and thus always be carved out of the "extended partition", and never be limited in number.

So, if you were to add a second hard drive you would NOT have to allocate ANY primary partition(s) on that new drive. You could just allocate "logical" partitions, and be unlimited in number on that drive. The first "logical" partition" you allocate causes the creation of the "extended partition" (i.e. that one true "primary" partition on the drive". After that, any additional "logical" partitions you allocate (and again, the fact that they are "logical" vs. "primary" is transparent to you) would be carved out of that one "extended partition".

This is all handled automatically by tools such as Partition Wizard, or Win7's DISKMGMT.MSC. If you did, for some reason, want to allocate another "primary" partition on that drive which was currently all allocated to that "extended partition" (which contains your "logical" partitions inside of it), you'd first have to shrink the partition at the high end of the currently allocated space, which really is thus reducing the size of the "extended partition" that contains all of the "logical" partitions inside of it, and then allocate the new "primary" partition in this new freespace at the upper-end of the drive.

Again, this would all be done automatically for you by Partition Wizard. You just indicate whether you want "logical" or "primary", and the program figures out (a) whether it's immediately possible, or (b) whether it's not possible right now but rather that you have to do some reconfiguration first.


Anyway, Partition Wizard is an excellent utility (including its standalone boot-CD which is used for more significant partition reconfigurations that cannot be done while Win7 is running).

My own suggestion is that unless you absolutely require a "primary" partition for some specific reason, there's no reason why you shouldn't allocate all new partitions (on the primary or additional secondary hard drives) as "logical". This provides maximum flexibility in sizing and eliminates all limits on the number of partitions you can place on a given drive.


Glad you finally figured out what's on your hard drive in these three partitions.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home-built, two systems (1) and (2)
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
CPU
i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2)
Memory
8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD7750 (1), (see TV cards); ATI R7 250 (2)
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2)
Monitor(s) Displays
Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2)
Screen Resolution
1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2)
Hard Drives
(1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2x2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS; 2x2TB external USB 3.0

(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS; 2TB external USB 3.0
PSU
Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2)
Case
Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2)
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2)
Keyboard
IBM PS/2 (1) and (2)
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2)
Internet Speed
100mbps down / 10mbps up
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials; Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Pro
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC
Thank You

Thank you dsperber. I've learned a ton. I never really understood partitions until now.

I admire your knowledge,
Don
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
PORTEGE R700 -- Toshiba/R700 S-1312
OS
Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz (7-7-7-20)
Memory
4096MB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Internal LCD (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Chipset: Intel(R) GMA 950, 60Hz, Raster,120DPI,32 Bit Color
Screen Resolution
1300/768
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050B9A300
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port Touchpad
I have a Toshiba Satellite P775-S7232 an i5 based laptop with 6GB RAM and 640GB HDD preloaded with Windows 7 x64 purchased one month ago. This laptop's hard disk has the following partitions.

1.4GB Healthy (Active, Recovery Partition)
This little partition contains the Windows Recovery Environment. The fact that it's marked Active, tells us that it also contains the boot files for Windows (bootmgr.exe and BCD in the boot folder).

450.21GB Healthy (Boot, Page file, Crash Dump, Primary Partition) "C: Drive"
The big partition contains Windows of course. It's named the Boot Partition by Microsoft. (Microsoft calls the one with the boot files the System Partition.)

14.09GB Healthy (Primary Partition)
The third partition contains the image that was used when you restored the hard disk to it's factory defaults.

"Create a system repair disc" (All Programs - Maintenance) utility will create a Windows 7 Repair DVD Disc and "Recovery Media Creator" (All Programs - Toshiba - My Toshiba) utility creates 5 DVDs namely Recovery DVD Disk 1-4 and Windows Recovery Environment (x64) from these two partitions.

After taking backup of DVDs the 14.09GB Primary Partition may be deleted and used for normal usage. But it is recommended to keep this partition. Never delete the 1.46 GB Primary Partition as this contains the boot files for booting into Windows 7.

To recover the Windows and Applications for a crashed system, restart the system while holding 0 (zero) key to get into the Toshiba recovery environment.

These DVDs set can also be used to recover the Windows and Applications to the factory defaults.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite P775-S7232
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
i5-2410M 2.3GHz (2.9GHz Turbo-Boost) Sandy Bridge 32nm
Motherboard
Toshiba PHRAA ver. PSBY1U-00F003
Memory
4GB+4GB Samsung DDR3 PC3-10700 (1333 MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Video Intel(R) HD Graphics Family, 1696MB available memory
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio version=6.0.1.6323
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 " Trubrite TFT LCD, LED Backlit
Screen Resolution
1600x900 32 bit, Native support for 720P content
Hard Drives
TOSHIBA MK6476GSXN
580.614 [GB] partitioned C: 80GB and D: 500GB with hidden recovery partitons.

Spare bay for 2nd HDD but no SATA connector :-(
PSU
Toshiba AC/DC Adapter
Case
Notebook
Cooling
Built-in Fan
Keyboard
Premium Raised Tile keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M215 wireless mouse
Internet Speed
Not fast enough
Other Info
Built-in Harman Kardon speakers with Dolby Advanced Audio, Waves MaxxAudio® 3. HDMI, 1xUSB3+3xUSB2 ports, WebCam, Battery life 4hrs 11mins, 4GB Readyboost SDHC card, WD My Book Essential Ext HDDs 2 TB, 2x1TB, My Passport SE 1TB and WDTV 1st Gen for Multimedia playing on a Sony Wega 32" LCD.
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