Help. Geforce 9600 GT Win7 = terrible performance.

[abc]

Hello!!!!!!!!!

My system is as follows,

Windows 7 64bit
Gigabyte M720-US3
Phenom 2 945
2gb corsair XMS2 DDR2 800mhz
Display driver 195.62

I'm getting really bad graphics performance. I lost like 10 FPS on RE5 benchmark versus windows XP 32bit. On Left 4 dead 2 my average FPS is around 35-45, and even lower if I turn shader quality up to maximum (which the game recommends)

On my old system (AMD 3800 X2 Win XP) I never got any slow down on L4D 1 and there isn't much difference between the 2 games graphically.

I ran SiSoft Sandra GPU benchmarks and my GT 9600 scored quite a bit lower then the reference cards.

My memory and CPU clock are both at stock.

Is this a driver problem? What can I do to improve things, please?

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[Legacy]

Install the latest chipset/motherboard drivers and also video card driver from NVIDIA's website.

 

[abc]

Install the latest chipset/motherboard drivers and also video card driver from NVIDIA's website.

Tried. in my OP it shows I have the latest Nvidia drivers anyway.

Anyone, please?

 

[Legacy]

Nobody could give you better advice than what I already gave.

Maybe you have too much stuff starting with Windows and/or AVG installed.

In either case, it should be apparent now what to do to fix it.

Install this too: http://downloads.guru3d.com/nForce-15.51-WHQL-Windows-7-and-Vista-64-bit-download-2402.html

Or if that doesn't work for your board, install the chipset and all other latest drivers from here:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/...?ProductID=3006&ost=windows+7+64bit#anchor_os

 

[abc]

I tried the Gigabyte drivers. It's very strange beccause the installer will only give me the option of installing the Nvidia away mode driver. There isn't much evidence of nvidia in devicemanager / hardware. I'm actually not certain if the drivers are properly installed but I wonder if there is an efficient way to check?

 

[Legacy]

Yes. You can look at the dates of the drivers in C:\Windows\System32

You can also use the device manager to install for each driver, but you have to know which ones first:

Right click. Update driver software. Browse my computer. Let me pick. Have disk. Browse. Find the extracted .inf from the installer. Double click it. Hit ok. Hit next.

All NVIDIA drivers start with NV like nvstor.sys etc...

 

[abc]

I've attached a S/S of my device manager. It's very hard to know which driver goes where. All the drivers are Microsofts own. I know this just can't be quite right. Auto-update search just says the latest and greatest driver is installed. Sigh.

I'm supprised Gigabyte are so lazy with their driver installation software. I know I won't be buying from then again!!!

 

[TGSoldier]

Was this an upgrade or clean install?

 

[Legacy]

You should be able to install the drivers just by running the installer from the link I gave, for "Chipset/Lan" drivers, to completion. It will install anything that needs an update.

 

[abc]

No, I tried the gigabyte link (which i've tried in the past) only wants to install the away mode driver, like I could care less about that one lol. The driver from guru 3d said no compatible hardware was detected for the drivers on the system. Facepalm.

Yes this is a clean install, format > windows 7.

 

[Legacy]

Well, for sure you can update the lan and Serial ATA controller using the device manager and the .infs.

You could also try doing so with the PCI ones in your screenshot. One of them controls the PCI-e bus that is important for the video card.

You have to find the correct inf too, from the extracted installer, or else it won't install at all.

 

[TGSoldier]

http://america.giga-byte.com/FileLi...driver_chipset_nvidia_mcp72_78-win7_64bit.exe

That's the link you are using?

Also, have you updated your bios to F6?

Download GPU-Z.. Make sure your card is running at x16..

 

[abc]

Hey, this is strange. I re-downloaded the drivers from the link above. Just out of curiosity, I deleted the away mode driver folder. Now when I run the installer, it says it cannot find any compatible hardware blah blah. I really don't quite know whats going on here but it seems like there are (no) working drivers. I have yet to do things manually however.

My card is set at x16 @ 2.0pcie. My bios is F6 also.

Really wierd, maybe windows 7 isnt really supported?

 

[mushroomboy]

Hello!!!!!!!!!

My system is as follows,

Windows 7 64bit
Gigabyte M720-US3
Phenom 2 945
2gb corsair XMS2 DDR2 800mhz
Display driver 195.62

I'm getting really bad graphics performance. I lost like 10 FPS on RE5 benchmark versus windows XP 32bit. On Left 4 dead 2 my average FPS is around 35-45, and even lower if I turn shader quality up to maximum (which the game recommends)

On my old system (AMD 3800 X2 Win XP) I never got any slow down on L4D 1 and there isn't much difference between the 2 games graphically.

I ran SiSoft Sandra GPU benchmarks and my GT 9600 scored quite a bit lower then the reference cards.

My memory and CPU clock are both at stock.

Is this a driver problem? What can I do to improve things, please?

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You see what I made bold? You see the difference? Just as the main RAM is 2x the size, the data on the GPU ram is 2x the size... So do you understand a performance loss with double the registers? Yeah it affects all aspects of the system. Now also I'm going to say the 9600 GT series was a huge letdown, given the fact that some of the 8xxx series cards performed better....that and the fact that the 8800/9800 are the same card..... I'm going to say the that being 64 bit might be part of the issue, as my card has problems with higher textures even though it's rated for them. Though on a 32bit system it runs quicker. =)

 

[Frostmourne]

Essentially, 2GB isn't enough for gaming and even though GIgabyte is an excellent motherboard manufacturer doesn't that board have an nvidia chipset? You should have reconsidered and gone for an AM3 board. That said install more RAM and upgrade the GPU - 64 shaders is not enough for new games and neither is the 650MHz core clock or the other specs. As has been mentioned upgrade the chipset, BIOS, firmware if necessary etc.

 

[mushroomboy]

No the 2G main memory is fine, that's what I'm using. But 512 128bit memory on the gfx card isn't enough for the gfx processing. 650/1500 core/shader is fine.... But if your using 64bit the 128bit RAM (I'm just guessing your running a 9600 that has 512 with 128bit DDR3?) doesn't have the speeds required to move the data as fast as it would on 32bit.... This is NOT related to your 2G main ram, as it has plenty of space for running the games... I can run COD4 MW2 with 2G just fine, I had 1G and it ran pretty smooth. Although I am running DDR3 at 833 dual chan... So a ram upgrade wouldn't be a bad idea, though a better GFX card would be ideal for 64bit.

 

[Frostmourne]

The clocks are not fine - 64 shaders? Precisely why I bought a 4890 - for the price 800 shaders and a core of 850MHz is enough for today's games. Lucky that card has a 256-bit memory bus, although GDDR3 is being replaced by GDDR5.

 

[mushroomboy]

The clocks are not fine - 64 shaders? Precisely why I bought a 4890 - for the price 800 shaders and a core of 850MHz is enough for today's games. Lucky that card has a 256-bit memory bus, although GDDR3 is being replaced by GDDR5.

Dude, I'm running an 8800GT at 625/1625/922 speeds and I can play every game out to date max quality. The only thing I lack is the transfer speeds for high res pictures, so higher resolutions won't work as well... this is also due to my 512MB ram on my card.... Do you want screenshots? No? The speeds for the GeF275 aren't even as high as the 850MHz you have for your ATi, it's how they do the architecture as well. Maybe I should start getting my refrences posted, but I've been doing this bs since The voodoo's and I know how the speeds affect the FPS in new games. Infact the core clock isn't even the big one, it's the shader clock that really makes the fps boost.... But on top of that what's the #1 kicker for performance? RAM speeds and interface! Oh yeah, the 256 > 128 ect ect... And the lower end cards have 96-128 and I'm betting his is 128.... Oh wait, here let me get you specs for the G275

[B]                     [SIZE=4]XFX GX260XADJC GeForce GTX 260 [SIZE=7]896MB 448-bit DDR3[/SIZE] PCI Express 2.0  x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail                     [/SIZE][/B]



[LIST]
[*][B]Chipset Manufacturer:[/B] NVIDIA
[*][B]Core Clock:[/B]  576MHz
[*][B]Shader Clock:[/B] 1296MHz
[*][B]Memory Clock:[/B]  2000MHz
[/LIST]

Oh you see that bold? YOu see the ram interface? My 8800GT has higher clock/shader than this bad boy but probably sucks **** compared to it.... Why? BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAID EARLIER!!! ATi has over spec'd **** because they don't do the card's arch as nice as NV. It's just how ****'s been for a long time.

[edit] Oh my bad, that's the 260, oh wait that's STILL newer than both our cards.

[seccond edit]

• Stream Processors: 216 Processor Cores

Oh I forgot it has twice the stream processors as my 8800GT but that doesn't do much on low res pictures, as I get 60+ fps on any game max quality with all options on.... Even Stalker COP works fine.... Oh but you probably figured that out already.

 

[abc]

Uhh I know that my GT9600 isn't up there with the best, but I only bought it last year and it cost me plenty of money and I'd rather get the best out of it for another year or two before upgrading my video card (again!)

Right now I'm not getting the best out of it and losing 15-20% of its performance just due to a OS upgrade won't do. So any further suggestions would be really, really appreciated.

 

[mushroomboy]

Switch back to 32bit and see how that goes?

[edit] Err I mean try Win7 32bit.