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florini

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Hi guys,
3 months ago my WD Raptor died on me. I had a primary partition with Win 7 on it.
Now I have 2 hdds, 1st Samsung 320GB 7200rpm T166 with a logical partition ans 2nd Seagate LP 1000GB 5900rpm with a primary and a logical partition.
Now I have Seagate 1st primary partition System Active and Samsung logical partition boot where I installed Windows 7.
I know it doesn't look good but after the Raptor failed I was certain that the Samsung had a primary partition.
In two weeks I will have an SSD and I want to install Windows 7 on it and I want to make the SSD System Boot, so it would boot the OS independently, without the hdds.
Can someone explain me how/what should I do?

PS: I don't want to lose any data.
 

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What do you want to do?

When you get the SSD, disconnect all other drives and install Windows to the SSD. The process is no different than installing to a HDD.

Then reconnect your other drives and consider what to do with the data on them.
 

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Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
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If you want to recover the System boot files into Win7 on a Logical drive, unplug all other HD's, swap Win7 HD to DISK0 cable, set Win7 HD first HD to boot in BIOS setup after DVD drive, boot free Partition Wizard bootable CD to convert it to Primary partition, mark it Active, boot into DVD or Repair CD System Recovery Options to run Startup Repair 3 Separate Times to write the System boot files to the Active partition.

After repair plug back in other HD, delete 100mb partition using PW CD Wipe Partition utiliity or Diskpart Delete Partition Override command.
 
If you have an installation disk, the easiest is to reinstall - as Ignatz says. That way you get all the SSD settings automatically.

If you want to transfer your current installation, the easy way is to use the Paragon Migration Tool. It does all the settings for you with 2 clicks. It is absolutely foolproof. But it costs you $19,95.

If you want to venture into a "custom OS transfer", follow my tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/149969-ssd-install-transfer-operating-system.html But there are certain possible pitfalls and you have to act carefully.
 

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I will install win 7 on the SSD.
Is there another way? I dont want to open my case and unplug any cables.
I have a 2.5 rack, I have to slide the SSD in and Im done. The rack is connected to the ICH8R SATA ports 0 and 1.
 

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BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB GDDR3 320-bit
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Thermaltake Toughpower 750w modu
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Lian Li PC-A10B
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Installing with only one drive connected is the best way.
 

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So I disconnect the data SATA cables only?
After Ive finished the windows 7 installation and reconnect the hdds, what problems/conflicts can I expect?(missing partition/data, bsod, unbootable system)
 

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BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB GDDR3 320-bit
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LCD Samsung SyncMaster 205BW 20 inch 6 ms
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Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint T
Seagate 1TB SATA-II 5900 rpm 32MB Barracuda LP
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Thermaltake Toughpower 750w modu
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Lian Li PC-A10B
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Thermalright SI-128+Noctua NF-P12-1300
I dont want to open my case and unplug any cables.



Disconnect the power cables to all drives other than the SSD so they cannot spin or be written to.

If you DON'T do that, you have a pretty good chance of having problems.

If you DO that, you have only a small chance of any problems and almost no chance of a problem that can't be solved on this forum---assuming a new SSD and a fresh install is all you are planning.
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
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Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
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AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
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8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
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none; graphics are integrated on CPU
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onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
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Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
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System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
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Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
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Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
If you can't unplug cables, then enter BIOS setup at boot (by tapping the key given on first screen) to disable any other HD's besides Win7 HD.. Follow the steps I gave exactly..
 
OK guys, Im back and I want to thank you all for the support.
I installed the ssd, disconnected the hdds power cable, installed the os+apps, reconnected the hdds power cable, everything went almost flawlessly.
I got 2 freeze ups/black screens but I discovered that they were Avira Premium Security Suite 2012 fault, so I changed security app and no more black screens.
After Ive finished installing everything I tested my hdds with HD Tune Pro and my Seagate 1TB drive gave me 2 warnings(Reallocated Sector Count 1870, Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 2).
Can I fix this? How much time do I have?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.40 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6
Memory
2xCorsair 2GB DDR2 800 MHz CL4 Kit Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB GDDR3 320-bit
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD Samsung SyncMaster 205BW 20 inch 6 ms
Hard Drives
Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint T
Seagate 1TB SATA-II 5900 rpm 32MB Barracuda LP
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower 750w modu
Case
Lian Li PC-A10B
Cooling
Thermalright SI-128+Noctua NF-P12-1300
I would run a chkdsk /r on the HDD
 

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2x HP w2207
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with trackball - no mices
Mouse
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Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Ive run the short tests in windows seatools and the drive passed all of them.
If I run seatools extended CD scan I have to do a backup to 700GB of data and I cant afford that now.
If I run the chkdsk /r command do I risk any data loss?
Should I run the command from DOS or windows?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.40 GHz
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Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6
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2xCorsair 2GB DDR2 800 MHz CL4 Kit Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB GDDR3 320-bit
Sound Card
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LCD Samsung SyncMaster 205BW 20 inch 6 ms
Hard Drives
Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint T
Seagate 1TB SATA-II 5900 rpm 32MB Barracuda LP
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Thermaltake Toughpower 750w modu
Case
Lian Li PC-A10B
Cooling
Thermalright SI-128+Noctua NF-P12-1300
There is always a slight risk of data loss, at any moment in time, whether you run Checkdisk or not. Your hard drive could die as you read this.

Having said that, I would run chkdsk /r.

If you are trying to check the C drive, it won't run from Windows. Try it.

It will complain, and ask you if you want to run it on a reboot.

Say yes to that and reboot.

It might take hours to complete, depending on the size of your drive.
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
The very repairs the HD may need are what might put your data at risk.

Running any System without having important data backed up is always reckless.

It's as easy as plugging in an external and turning Win7 Backup on, or dragging your named User account over. Done.
 
Ive run the full error scan in HD Tune Pro and after 3 hours and 30 minutes the test completed successfully.
I will run the chkdsk /r tonight, hopefully it will be done when I wake up.
How come the drive passed all the tests in windows seatools?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.40 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6
Memory
2xCorsair 2GB DDR2 800 MHz CL4 Kit Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB GDDR3 320-bit
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD Samsung SyncMaster 205BW 20 inch 6 ms
Hard Drives
Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint T
Seagate 1TB SATA-II 5900 rpm 32MB Barracuda LP
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower 750w modu
Case
Lian Li PC-A10B
Cooling
Thermalright SI-128+Noctua NF-P12-1300
How come the drive passed all the tests in windows seatools?

In post 10, you said:

"I tested my hdds with HD Tune Pro and my Seagate 1TB drive gave me 2 warnings(Reallocated Sector Count 1870, Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 2)."

Two possibilities:

The warnings provided by HD Tune Pro are simply erroneous.

The warnings provided by HD Tune Pro are valid, but within the limits necessary to pass the Seatools test.

I'd pay more attention to the Seatools test.

And I would reevaluate after running Checkdisk. It may fix some things and you may then even be able to pass the HD Tune Pro test.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
If you ran it from Windows I believe it only checks the SMART data which can also be done at all times from desktop using a program like CrystalDiskInfo. It can't scan sectors because it's running.

The DOS CD scan can check sector by sector and even do some repairs.

The surest way to test a HD is using the manufacturer's extended CD scan along with Disk Check.

How is your Win7 performance on that SSD?

I always wipe the old OS HD's to prevent boot sector code from sometimes interfering, even at POST. Clean - Diskpart Command. If this is the old OS HD you can zero it using SeaTools CD.
 
The ssd is smooth 7.8 WEI.
I got the Reallocated Sector Count warning in CrystalDiskInfo too.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.40 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6
Memory
2xCorsair 2GB DDR2 800 MHz CL4 Kit Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB GDDR3 320-bit
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD Samsung SyncMaster 205BW 20 inch 6 ms
Hard Drives
Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint T
Seagate 1TB SATA-II 5900 rpm 32MB Barracuda LP
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower 750w modu
Case
Lian Li PC-A10B
Cooling
Thermalright SI-128+Noctua NF-P12-1300
I have gotten that SMART warning so many times in CDI that I've started ignoring it.

Others may disagree with that but it's never yielded anything in CD scans or Disk Check, although those still need to be done to be certain.
 
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