Help! Only two small things.

Customfig

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I have two things I’m looking for help with today.

The first this is creating a workgroup for a small office of 6 computers. From what my understanding of workgroups are is they allow each individual computer to share files and printers and what not. I was looking to get some more information if they can be configured more like a domain and have a central user that is able to manage them remotely, as well as have access to the local drives. Basically I’m trying to create a small domain without a server or expensive software.

Any idea would be greatly appreciated.

The second thing I would like to accomplish is to have a shared drive hosted on one of the computers running windows 7 ultimate. This shared drive would be our groups drive and everyone has access to it. However I would like some folders that restrict access to only certain individuals.

If anyone has any ideas how I can accomplish this please let me know.

Much appreciated to everyone in advance.


-AF
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
You can't set up a domain without a server but you can set up a VPN.

You can set up a virtual private network in order to access the network remotely, the link below shows you how to set that up.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...n-enable-incoming-vpn-connections.html?filter

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...work-vpn-enable-outgoing-vpn-connections.html

You can share a drive although you need to go into the advanced security settings and also the permissions settings of the drive to make it work. Sharing entire drives is not as easy as sharing folders because it's considered a security risk.

As for restricting access to certain users that is quite a bit more complicated. You need to set up a restricted access group for that to work. The post below shows you how.
http://www.sevenforums.com/network-...rotect-directories-childrn-other-usrs-pc.html
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
A few questions that may help to provide information on options for this

it can be done to an extent but is not easy

What Operating Systems are involved?
Do the users have individual user names or can you use a standard user ID across the network?
Do you have one system than can be designated as a "Server" to run centralised control?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
A few questions that may help to provide information on options for this

it can be done to an extent but is not easy

What Operating Systems are involved?
Do the users have individual user names or can you use a standard user ID across the network?
Do you have one system than can be designated as a "Server" to run centralised control?


We are using Windows 7, 3 of them on Professional, 2 on ultimate and 1 on home premium. We will also be adding sometime in the future a Windows Server 2008, however I would like to do this before we have the server 2008 up and running.

We are looking to have each individual to have a different log-in; however we would like a single admin.

Yes we do have a centralized box to use as a “server”.
Thanks for all your help


-AF
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
As you are no doubt aware Workgroup networking relies on the same user being available on each system to enable sharing and log-in to any machine,' Also any permissions and software restrictions have to be added to each machine individually

this can make any serious workgroup network a pain in the, [insert appropriate body part ;)], and in addition you do not have easy group policy access on your Home premium box.

With this in mind take a look at Desktop Management Software | Desktop Administration Software for Windows - ManageEngine Desktop Central which will allow you to remotely manage Workgroup systems - This is commercial, professional software but will, after a 30 day trial of the full version, drop into a free mode that's only restriction is that it is limited to 25 systems.

I use this to manage a similar sized network to your's where all systems run Vista Home Premium workstations and It allows me to add and remove users to all systems, set permissions workgroup wide, add group policy to the system, and also control windows updates across the network.

It is also fully compatible with an active directory based server network so will expand as your plans unfold.

If you need it they also do an inventory and help desk application with the same 25 device restriction although for this I actually prefer Free Network Monitoring Software | Spiceworks Free Network Management Software, as it provides better control of printers and routers etc, I use both in combination on some systems

This is now the best time to look at this form of control - before the system is set up and I'm sure that time spent now to set things up will be rewarded.

Sorry for the long post :D
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
The VPN would allow you to control the network remotely. Sharing drives is easy enough as I already pointed out but you will need to go into the Advanced Security settings to enable sharing of an entire drive, it won't work otherwise. And I would much rather use Windows to set up restricted access for certain users on this small of a network. No reason to over complicate something that can be very simple.
Just my two cents. ;)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
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