Hijacked by Win 10

Faterikcartman

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I found and joined this forum because last night before bed my PC said there was an update (creator's), asked if I wanted to delay or proceed, and this morning the update completes by giving me Windows 10.

Now I don't follow PC news as a hobby. I'm just a user. But I LOVE[ed] Win 7 Ultimate. And did not like the forced telemetry spying of Win 10 (though I'm sure such spying has been forced onto Win 7 as well). So I assume Win 10 is like Google and Facebook -- it's not free, I'm now the product. I have little interest in helping MSFT (oh how I once loved you) monetize me and want to retain Windows 7.

I'm sure can save my data, wipe my drive, and reinstall Windows 7, myself. But what happens next? Will this happen again? Has MSFT declared war on old versions (again) and are they determined to drive us all to Linux? Did I fall for the banana in the tailpipe and do the equivalent of hitting "NO" to say yes to Win 10 (AGAIN!)? Or something even more nefarious?

Hopefully you folks can bring me up to speed as to how to avoid Windows 10 the next time and what last night's update was all about. Bonus points for any news on whether MSFT has added telemetry spying to Win 7 and if there's any way to stop it. Super gold stars if I can undo this Win 10 update and revert to Win 7 without a clean reinstall. ADMISSION -- No, I have not backed up a ghost copy of my drive or install (not sure if that's the right way to say it, and if I knew the right way I might have done it!).

I'm 99.99999999% sure I can live without any Cortana, social media, or other nonsense gimmicks MSFT may offer with Win 10. And my aversion to it has as much to do with making a principled stand than any utility or compatibility with old software I may use so there is no need to try and sell me on how great my life will be if I just give in and switch to Win 10.

Thank you in advance for any insight you may provide.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
First of all, you can probably revert to your Win7 installation. I think in the Backup and Restore section of settings is such an option - it's there somewhere. I think you have 30 days from the 'upgrade' to do it before the backup files are deleted.

After that, try SpyBot AntiBeacon - free software that purports to eliminate all that 'telemetry'. Like you, I do not appreciate being a product a la Facebook, etc.

And start thinking about alternatives - Win7 loses extended support in January 2020...


I found and joined this forum because last night before bed my PC said there was an update (creator's), asked if I wanted to delay or proceed, and this morning the update completes by giving me Windows 10.

Now I don't follow PC news as a hobby. I'm just a user. But I LOVE[ed] Win 7 Ultimate. And did not like the forced telemetry spying of Win 10 (though I'm sure such spying has been forced onto Win 7 as well). So I assume Win 10 is like Google and Facebook -- it's not free, I'm now the product. I have little interest in helping MSFT (oh how I once loved you) monetize me and want to retain Windows 7.

I'm sure can save my data, wipe my drive, and reinstall Windows 7, myself. But what happens next? Will this happen again? Has MSFT declared war on old versions (again) and are they determined to drive us all to Linux? Did I fall for the banana in the tailpipe and do the equivalent of hitting "NO" to say yes to Win 10 (AGAIN!)? Or something even more nefarious?

Hopefully you folks can bring me up to speed as to how to avoid Windows 10 the next time and what last night's update was all about. Bonus points for any news on whether MSFT has added telemetry spying to Win 7 and if there's any way to stop it. Super gold stars if I can undo this Win 10 update and revert to Win 7 without a clean reinstall. ADMISSION -- No, I have not backed up a ghost copy of my drive or install (not sure if that's the right way to say it, and if I knew the right way I might have done it!).

I'm 99.99999999% sure I can live without any Cortana, social media, or other nonsense gimmicks MSFT may offer with Win 10. And my aversion to it has as much to do with making a principled stand than any utility or compatibility with old software I may use so there is no need to try and sell me on how great my life will be if I just give in and switch to Win 10.

Thank you in advance for any insight you may provide.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Dual Pentium E2180 2 GHz
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated Intel G33
Can't really see how you got the Creator's update without already having Windows 10 already. AFAIK, The Creators update is only available to Windows 10 users.

And Microsoft stopped giving away the free Windows 10 upgrade over a year ago, so why your system would spontaneously upgrade to a no longer offered upgrade package is quite remarkable.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

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Can't really see how you got the Creator's update without already having Windows 10 already. AFAIK, The Creators update is only available to Windows 10 users.

And Microsoft stopped giving away the free Windows 10 upgrade over a year ago, so why your system would spontaneously upgrade to a no longer offered upgrade package is quite remarkable.

I'm lucky like that. But in case you're wondering I am 100% certain this is/was Win 7 clean install on a wiped drive. BUT -- during the free upgrade period, as I mentioned in my original post, I was tricked into the Win 10 install. The drive was wiped and a clean Win 7 install made afterwards. But perhaps MSFT logged some identifying info on my PC and Win 7 license and marked me as a qualifying victim for a future "upgrade" push. Which I experienced last night.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
Microsoft no longer pushes the W10 update.

A clean install of Windows 7 will not be offered a W10 upgrade.

You would have to initiate the upgrade yourself.

But there are still updates that check or make your possible to upgrade to new windows versions, (something to that effect) but it will not cause an upgrade.

You should always be reading up on any update before you install it.

2664 is a infamous update for that, and a new update was offered on Tuesday with a diferent KB number.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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