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Went to clone my partners old Toshiba 5400rpm drive with this - Seagate ST500LM000 Laptop Thin SSHD only to find at the last moment the Toshiba is a 600GB drive :mad:
Now I can use this - Seagate ST1000LM014 Laptop SSHD 1TB ($40 more) or this - Western Digital WD Black WD7500BPKX 750GB (bit cheaper than the Seagate 500GB),

But a) I don't like WD stuff and b) wondering if I can just copy the first two partitions on the old drive once I have reduced the size of the C: partition with Partition Wizard and hope it just boots from it or not??

Just as well I didn't buy a 500GB SSD for her as I would have been well up the creek without a you know what:o
 

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I think you're right on the money John - reduce C: - then clone system and C: to the SSD.

Just make sure C: is reduced enough, if you can give yourself a bit of a margin, say 20%.

That would make C: 480GB+ 100MB for system (hmmm, your disk 0 part 1 is 1.46 GB - still plenty of room) You can extend C: on the SSD afterwards

Bill
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Thanks Bill that is a relief as I saw me up for more dough. The drive in question (I am cloning to) is a Seagate ST500LM000 Laptop Thin SSHD 500GB and from the ad video seems to be a mix of SSD and spinner. The sizing mate is ok as she has only 35% used on that drive so reducing as you say is not a problem.
Now just so I have it right that last partition the 10.89GB - I can ignore as it does have data in there but for the life of me I cannot make out what ?? I did explore it with the Partition Wizard and it had folders in in it and some were just empty and I am guessing it is some Toshiba rubbish wear.
Anyway will soon see when I clone those two partitions to the new drive.
Thanks again mate.
John
 

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how much used space is the 600GB? you might be able to not clone but just migrate it.
 

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RVC it all adds up to 596.17GB and
Bill I guess I might have to shrink all three partitions to less than what the total is and then clone the lot and then resize back to what they are originally. I then size the partitions on the new drive to suit ie make that first and third one as small as possible and the main larger partition as large as I can.
However I suppose the machine is still going to recognise the old drive as 600GB even with those three partitions smaller and baulk at cloning it.
Thing is I don't want to wreck anything because you will see on the news - horrendous murder of geek in Australia.;)
 

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So you have used all 500 so od gb's in that partition then? Dang that's pretty full.
 

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So you have used all 500 so od gb's in that partition then? Dang that's pretty full.
No at the moment I am away from her place and don't have access to pull up how much is used but I seem to remember the disk was about 54% used but as I said the clone program is till going to see a 600GB drive in there - I suppose even if it were near empty.
 

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Thing is I don't want to wreck anything because you will see on the news -
horrendous murder of geek in Australia.;)

:roflmao:

I think all you need to do is shrink C: and clone the 600GB disk using Macrium

Maybe clone is the wrong term / process.

Make an image of the 600 GB drive after shrinking C: to the maximum available space (+5% buffer). Shrinking C: will make the image smaller anyway.

Then you have the image to play with.

The restore operation using Macrium can be canceled if the resize isn't offered - no horrendous murder involved :)

I mentioned this in the PM - you might have to force Macrium to offer the resize by creating a part at the end of the drive. When Macrium sees that some of the disk is already allocated, it might only then offer the Resize - I'm not sure if this is necessary though.

Bill
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If you use something like acronis you should not have to shrink anything. As it only takes what is there I use it for all my stuff. It should let you restore it to a smaller drive as long as the used space is smaller than the capacity. You make an image not a clone then restore the image to the smaller drive and it will just end up being same less free space on the main partition. I thought partition wizard did this also.

Edit: old info but still basically how it works. https://kb.acronis.com/content/2770
 

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Hmm seems to be a few options then I shall have to wait till I get on the machine tomorrow and see what happens.
 

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