Home Premium - defragmentation takes forever

ManUtdFans

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I am using 32-bit Windows 7 Home Premium on my laptop, found it was a bit slow.
Goto Disk Defragmenter to analyse, 5 % fragmented.
But I still go ahead.

It had gone 5 passes, relocate...etc.
Then looks like stop at
Pass 5: 0% consolidated

It's been 40 minutes unchanged up to now, still 0% consolidated.
My harddisk is a 320GB one.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
How much free space? how much RAM?

System specs please
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
OS
Win 8 Release candidate 8400
CPU
[email protected]
Memory
4 gigs
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9600M
Sound Card
HD built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
17" Wxga
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Cooling
none
Internet Speed
45Mb down 5Mb up
Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 2.1 GHz
3 GB RAM
320 GB Hard disk
107 GB free
Win 7 Home Premium SP 1
NTFS
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 2.1 GHz
3 GB RAM
320 GB Hard disk
107 GB free
Win 7 Home Premium SP 1
NTFS

Well just to be on the safe side lets run a system file check. I dont think the OS is the problem but SFC is fast and will give us a direction.


Run a system file check to verify and repair your system files.
To do this type cmd in search, then right click to run as administrator, then
SFC /SCANNOW

Read here for more information http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html

Let us know the results from the report at the end.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
OS
Win 8 Release candidate 8400
CPU
[email protected]
Memory
4 gigs
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9600M
Sound Card
HD built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
17" Wxga
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Cooling
none
Internet Speed
45Mb down 5Mb up
Give Puran Defrag a try.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 10 Professional / Windows 7 Professional
CPU
Intel i5-3570
Motherboard
Lenovo Mahobay
Memory
16GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB
Sound Card
(1) Realtek HD Audio (2) AMD HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
LG LS192WS
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 @ 32bit color
Hard Drives
(1) SUV300S37A/120G (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled.
PSU
Corsair HX620
Case
Thermaltake V4 Black Edition
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 5 on CPU/GPU
Keyboard
Dell SK-8115
Mouse
Razer Copperhead with MAPED mat (awesome!)
Internet Speed
100 Mbps up/down
Browser
Chrome
Hi ManUtdFans, welcome to 7F :)

To the OP, and zigzag3143.
I remember a time I had a situation like that on my XP machine, and I found that the OS was in a constant state of Indexing. I wonder if that is happening here?
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway DX4831-01e (Mid-Tower Desktop)
OS
Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
CPU
Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors
Motherboard
Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz
Memory
6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
Graphics Card(s)
32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [CD-ROM dr]
Four card readers, and Four USB 2.0
PSU
300watts.
Case
Mid-Tower Desktop
Cooling
Stock from Gateway
Keyboard
Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, see Other Info
Mouse
Orig. Gateway wore out now using Insignia USB wired optical
Internet Speed
Vz FIOS 10ms png 57.64Mbps down 65.53Mbps up Speedtest.org
Antivirus
Zamana Anti-logger with Anti-malware, MSE, Windows Firewall,
Browser
IE11.0.9600.19399-Upd ver11.0.135, Firefox 68.0.1 x64
Other Info
System Specs by Belarc.

BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-A0 11/17/2009

Replaced the MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Keyboard with a new Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 on August 1st 2014.

Canon Pixma MG3222 Printer.

Updated to IE11 on 12102015 | Fios Quantum Router g1100

Additional AV: SpywareBlaster, manual Mbam, SAS
Actually this same situation is also happening with me. It stops after it goes to 5 passes. I have also ran SFC/SCANNOW 3 times already and it hasnt really found anything.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron E 1505
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32 Bit
CPU
Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz 1.73 GHz
Motherboard
DELL
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Screen Resolution
1280 by 800
Hard Drives
136 GB
Recovery 10 GB
ManUnitedFan,

Let us know when you complete the recommendations from ZigZag.

There are many explanations for what you have observed.

Do us a favor,
fill out your system specs according to this write-up. When you do that then your system specs follow you with each post and all we need to do is click on that small print "my system specs" in the bottom-right of a post.

Looking forward to seeing your specs and the results requested.
Update your SevenForums System Specs
User CP (3rd item in the top menu bar) |
Your Profile | Edit System Spec
(left-hand column)

To gather info, use SIW or Speccy or System Info

Add the word laptop or desktop or netbook to the
“system manufacturer” block, for example,
Toshiba Satellite L305D notebook.

Provide full windows version info, for example:
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit

Use the “Other Info” block for Optical Reader,
Mouse, touchpad, wifi adapter, speakers, monitor, etc

Scroll down and click on the SAVE CHANGES button
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
I've heard that the default Disk Defrag is slow. Try Defraggler :)
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
10 Home x64
CPU
Intel Core i5 4670K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP
Memory
Corsair XMS3 8GB DDr3 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire NITRO Radeon R9 Fury
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer H236HLbmjd
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Force GS 128GB - Seagate 320GB - WD Caviar Black 1TB - WD Caviar Blue 500GB
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2
Case
Silverstone Raven 3 RV03B-W
Keyboard
Topre Realforce 104UG-HiPro
Mouse
Mionix Naos 7000
Internet Speed
76/4 On a good day
Antivirus
SmartScreen
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
I recommend against using Defraggler due to problems involving your shadow copies.

The Win 7 Defragger is safe and has no complications.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Windows 7's built-in defragger tends to use lots of CPU usage during the "Consolidation/Consolidated" passes, and it cannot take advantage of more than 1 CPU (or core). For instance, on my 3GHZ Core 2 Duo laptop, 1 core is constantly at 100% utilization from the svchost.exe that is the Disk Defragmenter engine. It takes a few hours to get past each Consolidated stage each time. The defragmentation stages are a different story, they are fast and I/O bound, not CPU bound.

Defraggler is even worse with CPU usage, and it can take full advantage of a dual core/dual CPU setup, but still be very CPU bound.

It's like you need an Intel Ivybridge or AMD Piledriver chipset just to run defrag and keep it I/O bound as it should!
 

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OS
windows 7
Hi all
I might be the odd man out here or the "5th" player in a string quartet but I've NEVER DEFRAGED a Disk --even going back to as far as Windows 3.11 !!

I've always kept the OS and programs on a separate partition to Data / movies / films etc and can honestly say I've never needed to defrag a disk.

If your HDD is 320 GB and needs defragmentation -- well I'm not sure what you are running.

In any case NTFS file system doesn't really need this type of process.

If you MUST do this often an easier way is simply to back up your data with an imaging program and then restore it again -- these imaging programs don't copy free space and are not sector by sector copying programs (unless you force them to copy like that in the options) so the restore will have effectively "optimised" the data chains.

This type of operation will only take around 20-60 mins even on a LARGE system so it will in any case beat using the usually incredibly slow defragmentation system.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built, several laptops HP/ASUS
OS
Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
CPU
Intel i7 Intel i5
Memory
8GB, 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
On Motherboard
Sound Card
Realtek HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Apple Cinema display, Samsung LCD
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
4 X 1TB SATA
Mouse
Toshiba wireless laser
Internet Speed
> 20MB up
NTFS file system compression really encourages fragmentation. I use it on the directory that has all my games on it, and also in my bittorrent folder.

I had to defragment my games directory after I modded my half-life 2 installation with Cinematic Mod 11 .... lots of files.

Would have taken half the time if my CPU would keep up (defragger engine written better).
 

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OS
windows 7
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