HomeGroup Issue

Eneswar

New member
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to say that I have used google, read almost all threads about this here but no luck for me.

Firstly let me describe my situation:

Computer one:
This is the main computer, wired connection, printer is set in this computer etc.

Computer two:
The second computer, uses wireless connection.

Both uses Windows 7 Ultimate 86x.

What I wanna do is I want computer two to have access to the printer on computer one.

I have tried every possible solution i have found but for the life of me i cant get it to work. On the main computer, (computer one) I create a homegroup, and I try to join it on the second computer, it takes me to the screen where i enter the password, which I do and press next but after a few minutes it just tells me that i couldnt connect to the homegroup.

The settings on both computer is set correctly, also on the main computer when i view Network I can see the second computer, but when trying to accesss it it asks me for password, even tho its set to not ask for it.
On the second computer i cant even see the computer one in Network.

This is driving me insane, I thought this was supose to be easy with 2 win7 !!!


Any help is greatly appreciated.

PS: I may have a few spelling misstakes here and there, dont mind, im rather frustrated atm :P
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell C521
OS
W7 Ultimate 64bit W7 Premium 64bit W7 Premium 32bit WXP Home 32bit
CPU
Athlon 64X2 5000+
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1300
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19" Flat
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500GB Western Digital Caviar Green
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0
Internet Speed
SBC DSL - 6Mbps
Thank you for the reply :)

I have already checked the IPv6, both are enabled.
I have also checked those links and tried, still no go.

Remember, all i want is to give the computer two access to the printer from computer one, thats all :P



Edit:
Does the network name has to be same name? As in:
If yes will that cause anything on the second computer as its wireless? (Do i have to change that name in router too?)

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/24683-network-name-icon-change.html?filter
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Make sure both computer clocks are set to the same time. If they are different (not sure what the limit is) HomeGroup has problems...
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell E520
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1, Ubuntu 11.04 x64
CPU
Core2Quad Q6700 - 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Whatever the heck Dell put in there...
Memory
8 Gig Mushkin DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVIDIA 9800GT - 512MB DDR3
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x 19" ViewSonic LCD
Screen Resolution
2560x1024
Hard Drives
1 Intel X25-M 120G SSD, 1 300G VelociRaptor, 1 WD Caviar Black 1TB
PSU
PCPower & Cooling Silencer 500 Watt
Internet Speed
15/2 Roadrunner Cable
Other Info
NOD32 AV - Malwarebytes
Same time as in same minute and stuff? Or just same zone?



Edit:
I just checked and they are pretty much same, I dont know if they are exact same as in seconds but same in minute for sure.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Same time as in same minute and stuff? Or just same zone?



Edit: network names
I just checked and they are pretty much same, I dont know if they are exact same as in seconds but same in minute for sure.

I think if they are within a minute or so of each other that's good enough.

I have my notebook and desktop at home on a HomeGroup, with a wireless connection for the notebook and wired for the desktop. I'll look at my network names and other settings when I get home tonight and post back.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell E520
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1, Ubuntu 11.04 x64
CPU
Core2Quad Q6700 - 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Whatever the heck Dell put in there...
Memory
8 Gig Mushkin DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVIDIA 9800GT - 512MB DDR3
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x 19" ViewSonic LCD
Screen Resolution
2560x1024
Hard Drives
1 Intel X25-M 120G SSD, 1 300G VelociRaptor, 1 WD Caviar Black 1TB
PSU
PCPower & Cooling Silencer 500 Watt
Internet Speed
15/2 Roadrunner Cable
Other Info
NOD32 AV - Malwarebytes
Ah great, thank you :)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell E520
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1, Ubuntu 11.04 x64
CPU
Core2Quad Q6700 - 2.66 GHz
Motherboard
Whatever the heck Dell put in there...
Memory
8 Gig Mushkin DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVIDIA 9800GT - 512MB DDR3
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x 19" ViewSonic LCD
Screen Resolution
2560x1024
Hard Drives
1 Intel X25-M 120G SSD, 1 300G VelociRaptor, 1 WD Caviar Black 1TB
PSU
PCPower & Cooling Silencer 500 Watt
Internet Speed
15/2 Roadrunner Cable
Other Info
NOD32 AV - Malwarebytes
Thank you for the link. Note that none of the computers is a laptop, but one of them is wireless, so ill give check it out either way.

Will get back at you!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Christ i cant belive this. Well good thing is I figured it out and got it working. My firewall was blocking it and when I turned it off it all went smooth and works perfectly. I cant belive i didnt figure this out before, this has made me go mental the last 3 days.....

So when the firewall was turned off i was able to print out stuff from the second computer, but when i turned the firewall on, I'm still connected to the HomeGroup but im no longer able to print out. Does anyone know what I have to configure on the firewall to allow this? Im using F-Secure, not windows own firewall.

heh :p
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Glad you got it going. Normally Microsoft's firewall knows about file and printer sharing so I didn't ask about it when you said you went through the tutorials.

The ports you'll need to open are UDP Ports 137 and 138, and TCP ports 139 and 445.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell C521
OS
W7 Ultimate 64bit W7 Premium 64bit W7 Premium 32bit WXP Home 32bit
CPU
Athlon 64X2 5000+
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1300
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19" Flat
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500GB Western Digital Caviar Green
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0
Internet Speed
SBC DSL - 6Mbps
Do I open those on the router? Cuz i find see a way to open ports in F-Secure :/

Edit: Nvm found it, will try opening on firewall :)

Edit 2: When I open ports in F-Secure it wont let me choose UDP/TCP, if I open ports it will open for both, shall I still do it?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
If F-Secure doesn't specifiy UDP or TCP when opening a port it's probably allowing both.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell C521
OS
W7 Ultimate 64bit W7 Premium 64bit W7 Premium 32bit WXP Home 32bit
CPU
Athlon 64X2 5000+
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1300
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19" Flat
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500GB Western Digital Caviar Green
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0
Internet Speed
SBC DSL - 6Mbps
Opening those ports didnt do much :( I still cant print out.

After I opened the ports in F-Secure, I can edit these and enable services that these ports will use, do i have to enable anything specific?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Opening those ports didnt do much :( I still cant print out.

After I opened the ports in F-Secure, I can edit these and enable services that these ports will use, do i have to enable anything specific?

Look for any items related to file and printer sharing.

Edit: I found some info on F-Secure's support site that may help:

http://www.f-secure.com/kb/15216

There's quite a bit of good info on the site. You may want to browse through it.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell C521
OS
W7 Ultimate 64bit W7 Premium 64bit W7 Premium 32bit WXP Home 32bit
CPU
Athlon 64X2 5000+
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1300
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19" Flat
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500GB Western Digital Caviar Green
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0
Internet Speed
SBC DSL - 6Mbps
Oh nice, no idea why i didnt figure out searching on F-Secure website >_>
Will try this! :P Thanks
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Well that seems to do the trick :) Thank you!
I guess this works even if comp one is shut down? :p
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Taurus
OS
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Sandy Bridge Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
Motherboard
MSI P67A-C45
Memory
8,00 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Sound Card
7.1 Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T260
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200 x 59 hertz
Hard Drives
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
1465GB Seagate ST31500341AS
977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ
PSU
600W
Case
Taurus R1 Miditower
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse
Well that seems to do the trick :) Thank you!
I guess this works even if comp one is shut down? :p

Glad it works now!

Obviously if the printer is on PC 1 and PC 1 is shut down, you won't be printing anything.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell C521
OS
W7 Ultimate 64bit W7 Premium 64bit W7 Premium 32bit WXP Home 32bit
CPU
Athlon 64X2 5000+
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1300
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19" Flat
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500GB Western Digital Caviar Green
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0
Internet Speed
SBC DSL - 6Mbps
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