How can I change my computer and not lose use of my favorite software

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There seems to be little option when replacing an old computer than to settle for Win8. However, for me this would entail replacement, at unacceptable cost, of much of my somewhat ‘antiquated’ but adequate software running on Win XP - WordPerfect 12, Lotus 1-2-3 9.6, Excel 2000 9.0, Adobe Photo Deluxe 1.0 & Word 2000 9.0. Would it be a viable strategy to buy a Win8 computer, then buy Win7 off ebay and load that, rather than be saddled with Win8? And which version of Win7 would be suitable?
 

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Windows XP??768MB??
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows XP
CPU
??
Motherboard
??
Memory
768MB
Graphics Card(s)
??
Hard Drives
??
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Internet Explorer
Hi Welcome to Seven Forums .. There are still some Windows 7 Desktops available in the UK .. Just need to shop around for them ...
 

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windows 7 home 64bitINTEL-CORE I716GB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
W530-3630QM1
OS
windows 7 home 64bit
CPU
INTEL-CORE I7
Memory
16GB
Hard Drives
750GB
Browser
Chrome
My unsolicited opinion: Bite the bullet and find other software that does what you want and works with Windows 8. Libre Office is a good, free choice to replace Wordperfect, Lotus and Excel. Gimp is a possible free replacement for Photoshop.

Otherwise stay with the XP you have, keep your anti-virus up to date and be careful what you click on.

Windows 8 can be a bit difficult to use compared to Windows 7. It can be tamed though.

Start Button:
If you install Classic Shell (free) or Stardock's Start8 ($4.99) or similar software then you can have the Start button as it was in Windows 7 and boot directly to the Desktop. You can still play with Metro stuff but it's not forced on you.

Windows 7 Gadgets:
Windows 7 Gadgets are also available if you want them: 8GadgetPack - Gadgets for Windows 8

UAC:
I find UAC extremely annoying. If you do too then to (mostly) disable UAC, Press Windows key + R to open the Run window.
Type msconfig and press Enter.
Click on the Tools tab.
Select Change UAC settings and click Launch.
Move the slider all the way to the bottom then click OK.
Some parts of UAC will still be alive, so to completely disable it you need to change a registry key.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
Key: EnableLUA
Set the value to 0

You cannot use any Metro Apps or the App Store when UAC is disabled. If you've gone this far, you can also disable all hot corners so you will not get any of the Windows Charms popups. Just check the Classic Shell and Start8 options to do this.
 

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Windows 10 Pro X64Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHzIntel Integrated HD Graphics
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
Keyboard
Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
Internet Speed
Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Would it be a viable strategy to buy a Win8 computer, then buy Win7 off ebay and load that, rather than be saddled with Win8? And which version of Win7 would be suitable?

Very few people have a legitimate need for anything more expensive than Windows 7 Home Premium.

BUT, I would caution you about Ebay. The chances of fraud there are higher than I'd like.

If I had to get a new computer and did not have access to a known good Windows 7 installation disk and product key, I'd probably go with Windows 8 and immediately install one of several programs known to make desktop access similar to Windows 7. I think some of those programs are free and others very cheap--$5 or so.

I'd do that before I'd trust a random Ebay seller of Windows 7.

If you have a more reliable source for Windows 7, of course pursue it.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bitIntel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
My unsolicited opinion: Bite the bullet and find other software that does what you want and works with Windows 8. Libre Office is a good, free choice to replace Wordperfect, Lotus and Excel. Gimp is a possible free replacement for Photoshop.

Otherwise stay with the XP you have, keep your anti-virus up to date and be careful what you click on.

Windows 8 can be a bit difficult to use compared to Windows 7. It can be tamed though.

Start Button:
If you install Classic Shell (free) or Stardock's Start8 ($4.99) or similar software then you can have the Start button as it was in Windows 7 and boot directly to the Desktop. You can still play with Metro stuff but it's not forced on you.

Windows 7 Gadgets:
Windows 7 Gadgets are also available if you want them: 8GadgetPack - Gadgets for Windows 8

UAC:
I find UAC extremely annoying. If you do too then to (mostly) disable UAC, Press Windows key + R to open the Run window.
Type msconfig and press Enter.
Click on the Tools tab.
Select Change UAC settings and click Launch.
Move the slider all the way to the bottom then click OK.
Some parts of UAC will still be alive, so to completely disable it you need to change a registry key.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
Key: EnableLUA
Set the value to 0

You cannot use any Metro Apps or the App Store when UAC is disabled. If you've gone this far, you can also disable all hot corners so you will not get any of the Windows Charms popups. Just check the Classic Shell and Start8 options to do this.

Thanks for your help. I think I have to look a bit more closely into what the alternative software programs have to offer.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows XP??768MB??
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows XP
CPU
??
Motherboard
??
Memory
768MB
Graphics Card(s)
??
Hard Drives
??
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Internet Explorer
Hi Welcome to Seven Forums .. There are still some Windows 7 Desktops available in the UK .. Just need to shop around for them ...


Thanks for your advice. I don't have that many shops close to hand so perhaps I have to look further afield.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows XP??768MB??
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows XP
CPU
??
Motherboard
??
Memory
768MB
Graphics Card(s)
??
Hard Drives
??
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Internet Explorer
Originally you said:
However, for me this would entail replacement, at unacceptable cost, of much of my somewhat ‘antiquated’ but adequate software running on Win XP - WordPerfect 12, Lotus 1-2-3 9.6, Excel 2000 9.0, Adobe Photo Deluxe 1.0 & Word 2000 9.0.

Buying a Win7 machine would still have the same problems "migrating" apps as would Win 8.

So, have you decided that you are willing to spend money to replace all these with newer versions?

If not, you should look into PCMover from LapLink. And yeah, I know that folks here will tell you (1) a clean install is the best approach and (2) this app won't actually migrate your apps, and (3) you'll end up with a PC that won't work ...

But ... I have done this with a PC and it DID work, and there have been no problems in over a year.

But, as they say, "your mileage may vary" but the cost of PCMover is certainly a lot less than buying new versions/replacements for all your apps.
 

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Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bitAMD Phenom II X6 1090T4GB ddr3 1300AMD HD 4290 onboard
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4GB ddr3 1300
Graphics Card(s)
AMD HD 4290 onboard
Sound Card
Builtin Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 24" widescreen, LG 23" widescreen
Screen Resolution
1920x1200/1920x1080
Hard Drives
Kingston 256GB SSD
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M705 wireless mouse
Antivirus
Norton Av 2013
Browser
IE v10
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