How effective are virtual OS's?

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I've got a hankering to run some old software that was built for XP.

I could create a partition and install XP, but, according to the manual, my motherboard doesn't support it.

I understand you can run other OS's within W7 in a kind of sandbox.

Is this an option? I've never tried it before.
 

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Depends on what you're using them for, but virtual machines can be extremely useful for certain purposes. If your old software won't run on Win7, then you're a good candidate for virtualization.

If you haven't explored the subject of virtualization before, I've got a webpage that may perhaps help you wrap your head around just what a virtual machine is. I've been using VMs for a long time, and I wrote the webpage over a decade ago to help explain what they are to people who couldn't quite grasp what the heck I was talking about.

Of course, I'm using more modern VMs these days, but I still do most of my websurfing via VMs. I also use a VM with my trusty old scanner, whose software won't run on Win7. And I use VMs to trial-run software before deciding whether to commit it to my main machine.

For the sake of performance, you'll want to use a computer with hardware-assisted virtualization (fortunately, that seems to be common nowadays), lots of ram (minimum 8GB, but more is better), and a 64-bit host OS (to make use of all that ram).

On the PC platform, the most common virtualization programs are Microsoft Virtual PC, Oracle VirtualBox, and VMWare. The first two are free, but I'm not sure about VMWare.

Microsoft has changed VPC since I wrote my webpage and you now have to jump through a few hoops to get it working. It's also only good for running other Microsoft OSes, so doesn't support linux.

The latter two will run either linux VMs or Microsoft VMs equally well.


Dan
 

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VMWare Workstation is free.

free
 

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Virtual box is free virtual PC have been around for many years the great thing is they use virtual hardware so you can copy them to any of and they run. If you rent a webserver most now are virtual servers one of may run a few virtual machines
 

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Have you tried to install and run it directly in Windows 7? It will probably work, because XP was around not that long before 7. However, if it installs but doesn't work, you could try using Compatibility Mode. Right-click on the program's icon and choose Properties. Then click on the Compatibility tab. Here you can pick the version of Windows that will be best for running the program -- this will make sure Windows follows the rules for that version of Windows when running that program.

If that doesn't do it, then you can try Microsoft XP Mode for Windows 7:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/dow...002&e6b34bbe-475b-1abd-2c51-b5034bcdd6d2=True

XP Mode has two parts: free virtual machine software, and a free copy of XP to run in the virtual machine. Running XP Mode will be like the "sandbox" idea that you mentioned in your post.
 

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I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
Folks, thanks for your inputs - I'll take them all onboard.

FYI, the stuff I want to run won't do it properly in W7 (using the inbuilt converter) so it really needs a good VM.

Virtual Box seems OK. Anyone tried it?
 

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Win7 Ultimate SP1
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Intel Core i5 9400 Coffee Lake 14nm
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Asus Prime H310M-E R2.0 (LGA1151)
Memory
16G DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GTX 960
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (mobo)
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus PA248 24" 16:10 format
Screen Resolution
1920x1200@59Hz
Hard Drives
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM
3726GB Seagate ST4000DM
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM
6TB Seagate
465GB NVMe Samsung SSD 970
PSU
750G2
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Tower
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Standard
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USB
Mouse
USB
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920Mbs/480Mbs
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Malwarebytes
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Firefox
Virtual Box is very popular, so I'm sure you'll find plenty of people here with VBox experience. I've been a fan since v2.

Two tips to keep in mind:

(1) Remember that a virtual machine is effectively a different "machine", with its own "hardware", albeit virtual hardware. That means that it needs its own separate license. If your host machine has an OEM product key, don't expect to be able to reuse that product key for the VM's OS. The VM won't have the same "hardware" as the host machine. (This is not unique to Virtual Box--the same is true for VMs created in any other virtualization program.)

(2) Virtual Box comes with "VM Additions" software, which you should install on the guest OS after it is installed. "Additions" are special virtual drivers that enhance the guest OS, such as giving it the ability to drive higher resolution displays.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 7050
OS
Windows 7/8.1/10 multiboot
CPU
Intel Core i7-7700
Motherboard
Dell, Intel Q270 chipset
Memory
48GB (2x16GB Crucial DDR4-3200 + 2x8GB Hynix DDR4-2400)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD630 + AMD Radeon R7 450 PCIe
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VC279 (27")
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Toshiba M.2 NVMe (256GB),
Samsung 960 Evo (500GB),
WD Red Plus 80EFBX (8TB)
From my experience every OS I have ran on virtualbox has run flawlessly except for windows 7 with a few visual artifacts and windows 10/8 and a few versions of Mac OS especially Sierra
 

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