How to know what caused Windows to crash

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Hello

MY Windows PC crashed overnight. I was not able to restart it. A message was telling that probably a missing element was missing.

- I was able to load in safe mode After 3 retry, Windows finally did start normally

After reloading, I was not able to restart my anti-virus Kaspersky. After a clean re-install, Kaspersky was able to load. I doubt that I have a virus. No virus found after analysis.

Is there a way to know what has cause Windows to crash?

Martin
 

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Martin
There are two broad reasons that a computer has problems
One is hardware. That includes memory, hard drive, psu, etc
The other is software, drivers, software, etc.
If you were able to get your computer working after a reinstall, the problem is software.
Even if you did have a virus it is gone after a clean reinstall.
In the future, if you want to know the cause you have to come to us before the problem is resolved and we can help you find the cause.
 

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With the reinstall you lost any info that may have been logged.
Some viruses/malware will stop an anti-virus program from starting.
 

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Martin
There are two broad reasons that a computer has problems
One is hardware. That includes memory, hard drive, psu, etc
The other is software, drivers, software, etc.
If you were able to get your computer working after a reinstall, the problem is software.
Even if you did have a virus it is gone after a clean reinstall.
In the future, if you want to know the cause you have to come to us before the problem is resolved and we can help you find the cause.

Hello Richard

Maybe I was misunderstood. Nothing has been re-install, except my Kaspersky

I was able to load in safe mode, but was not able to run Kaspersky
Did try twice to a normal reload. The third time, Windows did go through and since run flawlessly.

Have a good day

Martin :)
 

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Intel I5 3450
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Asus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
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Cooler Master 600W
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Microsoft Multimedia Bilingual
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Windows Event Viewer

Hello again

My PC had some error when I came back to it this morning. It had some file integrity problems
I did look in the Event Viewer and see some errors. I just don't know how to interpret them.

Here is a link to a snap shot of the Event Viewer. The text is in French.

20140222-lqvq-213kb


Does the information could help to resolve the problem?

Any help appreciated

Martin
 

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Intel I5 3450
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Gefabye B75M-D3H
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8 GB DDR3 dual chanel
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Asus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
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4 L206W, Synckmaster, Acer X203W, X223W
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SSD 120G from Intel

640 GB
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Cooler Master 600W
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Antec
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Regular fan
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Microsoft Multimedia Bilingual
Mouse
Microsoft Optical 3000
Maybe an SFC, will help us find the cause. If your analysis shows that there are problems that cannot be fixed, show us a screen shot of your report
System Files - SFC Command
 

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Dell Premium Optical USB
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Maybe an SFC, will help us find the cause. If your analysis shows that there are problems that cannot be fixed, show us a screen shot of your report
System Files - SFC Command

Hello Richard

Yes I did execute the SFC and no problem was reported.

What I suspect now:

Few days ago, I replaced my SSD drive for a larger one. I did bough a used one. I copied an image of my initial drive to the new one. Maybe, the image did write above faulty cell in the drive.

I did check the drive life expectancy using SSD life. It shown that the drive is good for 8 more years with 77% of the cell intact. Meaning that there is a risk that some software have been corrupted.

Event viewer report Error 41 Kernel Power.
Is there a problem with my motherboard / Power supply / software ???
How can I check all these & my Files integrity

Martin :sick:
 

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windows 7 Pro x64Intel I5 34508 GB DDR3 dual chanelAsus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
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Home made
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windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I5 3450
Motherboard
Gefabye B75M-D3H
Memory
8 GB DDR3 dual chanel
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
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None
Monitor(s) Displays
4 L206W, Synckmaster, Acer X203W, X223W
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
SSD 120G from Intel

640 GB
PSU
Cooler Master 600W
Case
Antec
Cooling
Regular fan
Keyboard
Microsoft Multimedia Bilingual
Mouse
Microsoft Optical 3000
Martin
If the problem was due to the image including a faulty cell, you would have had the same problem with the old hard drive and you did not tell me that you did.
I tend to think that it is a hardware problem. I base this on the fact that you said that it still does not work the way it should in safe mode. Am I correct thinking this?
If I am correct lets start checking hardware. Rather than just guess, we can test according to what is the most common. Lets start with memory. I do not think its the power supply.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/105647-ram-test-memtest86.html
 

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Windows 10, Home Clean InstallIntel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB)...6 gbATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Computer type
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Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
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640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
Martin
If the problem was due to the image including a faulty cell, you would have had the same problem with the old hard drive and you did not tell me that you did.
I tend to think that it is a hardware problem. I base this on the fact that you said that it still does not work the way it should in safe mode. Am I correct thinking this?
If I am correct lets start checking hardware. Rather than just guess, we can test according to what is the most common. Lets start with memory. I do not think its the power supply.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/105647-ram-test-memtest86.html

Hello again Richard and thanks for your help

My questioning was about my new ssd drive. As mention, this one I bought it used. If this one had some faulty cells, then maybe, these cells where used by copying the image over them.

I did a memtest this morning before posting again with MEM86. No error was found. Tonight, I will let it run before going to bed for a more harder test.

Last hour, I installed a software called Sandra from SisoSoftware to test my hardware. At the moment, I see 12v voltage do oscillate a lot from 10.75 to up to 18V This is a big and wide variation, but I don't know if it is normal. I will test on another PC that I got.

Quest continu for this intermittent problem

Martin
 

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windows 7 Pro x64Intel I5 34508 GB DDR3 dual chanelAsus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
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Home made
OS
windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I5 3450
Motherboard
Gefabye B75M-D3H
Memory
8 GB DDR3 dual chanel
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
Sound Card
None
Monitor(s) Displays
4 L206W, Synckmaster, Acer X203W, X223W
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
SSD 120G from Intel

640 GB
PSU
Cooler Master 600W
Case
Antec
Cooling
Regular fan
Keyboard
Microsoft Multimedia Bilingual
Mouse
Microsoft Optical 3000
Maybe a very bad power supply. The +12V should be between 11.4V and 12.6, no more or less.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No buil...16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GBASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
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Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
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Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
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48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
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Norton Internet Security 2013
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IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
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4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
Maybe a very bad power supply. The +12V should be between 11.4V and 12.6, no more or less.

Hello

The voltage that I report is from Sandro Software. I'm not sure anymore that it is the 12v that is reported on the chart. I physically test the voltage on my PC power plug and the 12v was ok

Quest continue

Thanks for your kind help

Martin
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

windows 7 Pro x64Intel I5 34508 GB DDR3 dual chanelAsus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I5 3450
Motherboard
Gefabye B75M-D3H
Memory
8 GB DDR3 dual chanel
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Radeon 4870 Nevedi Gforce GTX 500Ti
Sound Card
None
Monitor(s) Displays
4 L206W, Synckmaster, Acer X203W, X223W
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
SSD 120G from Intel

640 GB
PSU
Cooler Master 600W
Case
Antec
Cooling
Regular fan
Keyboard
Microsoft Multimedia Bilingual
Mouse
Microsoft Optical 3000
Did you test it with Windows running? No time should it be outside of the values I posted.

Download http://www.hwinfo.com/ run Sensors only and see what you get.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No buil...16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GBASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
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