Solved Hybrid memory configuration. Unable to boot while using different RAMs

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Hello SF,

Straight to the point, I had two G.Skill 2Gb RAM's(1333Mhz and 9-9-9-24 [F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL](4gb because its a 2+2 module), of which one got bad. So consequently I bought a new single 4gb G.Skill RAM. (1600Mhz and 9-9-9-24)

The problem arrives when I try to use both the memories together, i.e., the new 4gb one and the single 2Gb good one left from the 2+2. I am able to run them separately, but when I put them together the system wont boot.

Firstly, can I use them together?
Further, I got a notion from the web that it will in fact lower the performance.

Thanks,
YBL.
 

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I've never been successful using two different styles of RAM sticks. I have mixed brands but they needed to be the same size and rated speed. Just run the 4gb stick, maybe sell the 2gb toward a second 4gb.
 

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I agree with madcratebuilder. Mixing and matching RAM is a gamble - period.

Check the voltage rating on both RAM sticks. These must match also.

The motherboard has a RAM voltage requirement also. You can assume that the RAM that came with the board is the correct voltage if you do not have a motherboard manual.
 

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Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 4608
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GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB
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the two RAMs have wildly different specs. It's theoretically possible to use them both at the same time, but you will have to lose a lot of time trying to overvolt either ram a bit and or adjusting other settings in the RAM panel of the bios.

And in the end you still get that the newer and faster 4 GB RAM you bought will be running at the speed of the 2 GB one, which is less.

Unless you really need those two GB i'd recommend to sell them as used or to keep them in a box (not installed but ready to be installed) as a failsafe in case your new RAM malfunctions.
 

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5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
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NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
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Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
I've never been successful using two different styles of RAM sticks. I have mixed brands but they needed to be the same size and rated speed. Just run the 4gb stick, maybe sell the 2gb toward a second 4gb.


I guess then that I just wasted my whole day trying different frequencies and slots and clock timings. I made a table with
4C2(4 out of 2 slots) x 4 (OC switch) x 2(upping the 2GB or lowering the 4Gb in terms of freq.) x 2! x 1(both RAM's are 1.5) = 96 cases. ( Can some cases be omitted? I just took the exhaustive approach ^_^)
Out of which I tried 30 something all of them unstable. If I get aroung to testing the rest and get success I would post it here.

After I am running with the 4Gb stick. I dont think I would be able to sell it. I might keep that as Plan B if my 4gb fails.

YBL.
 

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Dual Booting Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate Edition and Fedora 16.
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AMD Phenom X4 925
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MSI 785g-E53
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4gb DDR3 G.skill RipJaws
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ATI Radeon HD 6770
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Realtek
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Dell IN2020M LED
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The motherboard has a RAM voltage requirement also.
I assembled the desktop myself, so there was no RAM that came with the MB :(
I checked the specs for the slots and it was ok for 1.5 volts and the freq, so I just installed them tried and they worked.

About the RAM voltage requirements, I guess its the voltage supported by the MB? Can you elaborate? bit confused here.

Thanks,
YBL.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AMD _(Assembled)_
OS
Dual Booting Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate Edition and Fedora 16.
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 925
Motherboard
MSI 785g-E53
Memory
4gb DDR3 G.skill RipJaws
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 6770
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell IN2020M LED
Screen Resolution
1600*900 20"
Hard Drives
Seagate 500 Gibs
External 320 Gb Western Digital(Got Glitchy)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
Cooler Master
Keyboard
Logitech K100
Mouse
Razor Death Adder v2 3500 dPi (Razer Goliathus Pad)
Internet Speed
Back to college Internet with Cyberroam X|
the two RAMs have wildly different specs. It's theoretically possible to use them both at the same time, but you will have to lose a lot of time trying to overvolt either ram a bit and or adjusting other settings in the RAM panel of the bios.

And in the end you still get that the newer and faster 4 GB RAM you bought will be running at the speed of the 2 GB one, which is less.

Unless you really need those two GB i'd recommend to sell them as used or to keep them in a box (not installed but ready to be installed) as a failsafe in case your new RAM malfunctions.


'think that sums it up. But I just wanted to make it work once, just because it can be done. :devil:

Thanks,
YBL.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AMD _(Assembled)_
OS
Dual Booting Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate Edition and Fedora 16.
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 925
Motherboard
MSI 785g-E53
Memory
4gb DDR3 G.skill RipJaws
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 6770
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell IN2020M LED
Screen Resolution
1600*900 20"
Hard Drives
Seagate 500 Gibs
External 320 Gb Western Digital(Got Glitchy)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
Cooler Master
Keyboard
Logitech K100
Mouse
Razor Death Adder v2 3500 dPi (Razer Goliathus Pad)
Internet Speed
Back to college Internet with Cyberroam X|
The motherboard has a RAM voltage requirement also.
I assembled the desktop myself, so there was no RAM that came with the MB :(
I checked the specs for the slots and it was ok for 1.5 volts and the freq, so I just installed them tried and they worked.

About the RAM voltage requirements, I guess its the voltage supported by the MB? Can you elaborate? bit confused here.

Thanks,
YBL.

Yes, the motherboard and the CPU have voltage requirements for the RAM module(s). You can find these requirements in the motherboard manual, or on the motherboard website specs.
In general, RAM running at a lower voltage than the requirement will run fine, but trying to run RAM that needs more voltage than the motherboard allows will result in problems.

Lower voltage RAM runs cooler and more efficiently than higher voltage RAM also.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built - Jan 2013
OS
Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
CPU
i7-3820
Motherboard
Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 4608
Memory
GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Sound Card
On board Realtek ALC898
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S271HL
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
#1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cooling
Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
MS KC-0405
Mouse
Intellimouse 5-button
Internet Speed
56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
Antivirus
Avast & Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X
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