Install versus reinstall - lose everything?

Lee Morgan

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Last week, my PC suffered a corrupted driver, lost LAN connectivity, blah, blah, blah. The result was a total boat anchor of a PC (at least as far as getting on the Internet is concerned). I have a new copy of W7 on the way. My intention is to reload the OS, so that the PC performs well again, while retaining the software that's currently on it. Is that doable, or do I have to unload it all to external disks first? BTW, I think WS2_32.DLL took a hike. It's there, but I can't use Malwarebytes on it, without Internet connectivity.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 410
OS
OH
Dell doesn't have any Windows 7 drivers listed for your computer (XPS 410). Therefore, it will be a gamble to load Windows 7 and have the needed Windows drivers for everything . It might work.

There is no direct upgrade available from XP to 7. However, you could try an aftermarket program like PC Mover to upgrade from XP to 7. I've never used it, nor have I used a similar product. Here is a nice write up from someone who used PC Mover to upgrade from XP to 7:
http://www.windowsusers.org/pcmover.html

I suggest that you first get LAN connectivity working, before trying to do the upgrade. If you have an available NIC (Network Interface Card), you could install it in the computer, so that you could get online. Then do a Windows update, to see if it finds a driver for the internal NIC. If it does, then install only that one update. Then power down, remove the NIC that you installed, plug the Ethernet cable into the internal NIC, and power up, to see if the internal NIC now works. This method has never failed to work for me.

Any of these NICs should work in your computer:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_6_13?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ethernet+card+pci+express&sprefix=ethernet+card%2Caps%2C234&crid=13J2WU04ER28F

Or, you could try an external USB NIC:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...efix=usb+ethernet+,aps,223&crid=1RTWVIMKV9ND5

Make sure that whatever you buy will work with XP.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
CPU
Haswell
Memory
4 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
Keyboard
IBM Model M
Antivirus
Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
Browser
Firefox, Opera
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I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
My PC was already on 7 (courtesy of my dad, when he owned it). This is just W7 (non-working) to 7 (new).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
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Dell XPS 410
OS
OH
Then I suggest you use the method I described above to get your NIC working. Once you have gotten your NIC working, it will be a lot easier to get any other problems resolved.

Make sure you do a backup now, and also after you get something working.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
CPU
Haswell
Memory
4 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
Keyboard
IBM Model M
Antivirus
Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
Browser
Firefox, Opera
Other Info
I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
The copy I bought was off ebay, and was still sealed.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 410
OS
OH
If you just having trouble with for the internal NIC, open device manager, right click on the the network adapter and uninstall it.
Then On Action tab - Scan for hardware changes.

Don't understand why did you buy another copy of Win 7 if you already have one. Don't you have the copy your dad used on the computer?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
No, I don't have the original copy that was installed. I guess it came preloaded with XP, and then 7 was downloaded, it subsequently failed and was repaired with a volume license version of W7, I guess.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 410
OS
OH
On the the current version of Win 7 run MS diagnostic https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012
It will tell witch version (OEM, Retail or OEM slp) is installed. If it is a OEM or retail you can retrieve the key and use any Win 7 disk to install. If you don't have a disk you can download it.
http://www.klinzmann.name/licensecrawler.htm

There are two options to install win 7
1) My favorite is Clean install Clean Install Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums as it start from scratch and get rid of all trash.
- Backup your data
- Clean install Win 7
- Install all drivers.
- Install the updates. Use the offline SP2 and security only updates. MS releases SP2 for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums
- Reinstall all programs.
- Restore your data.

2) Repair install. It will reinstall windows and keep your programs, data and all trash. Repair Install - Windows 7 Help Forums
- Backup your data
- Install the updates. Use the offline SP2 and security only updates. MS releases SP2 for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
Do you have any restore points pre-dating the time your issue began? If you do it could save you a lot of time and trouble. Run as administrator 'rstrui.exe'.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Vostro
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit, Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit, Linux Mint 20.1 LTS
CPU
Intel Core i5-3470 3.2 GHz
Motherboard
Intel 7 Series C/216 Chipset
Memory
6GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VC239 (23.5")
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB
Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320GB
PSU
Corsair 500W
Antivirus
Microsoft Essentials, Malwarebytes, Kapersky Rescue Disk
Browser
Firefox 87 64 Bit
The only restore points that escaped disappearance were on an external drive, and were 3 years old!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 410
OS
OH
That's unfortunate (re. Restore Points). You should always have at least 1 recent one.

Coming back to your issue when you get your new W7 copy you had better know what your product key is as you won't be able to activate W7 without it. If you can still boot up you can find that out, or you may still have a COA sticker on your PC which displays it. It also has to be the same version of W7, eg you can't activate for W7 Ultimate if the PK was for W7 Home. You may be given a new PK with the W7 disk you are buying but it may not be genuine. If it is and it's for a different OEM W7 version than the one you have, then you can try and use that, but be warned.

Unfortunately when you install W7 you will lose all your software as I expect that's on your C: drive, and they will be wiped, so make a list of all apps already downloaded. If you go to Programs & Features they should all be listed in there. Also make sure you know where all the drivers are for your PC, usually listed under the manufacture's website. That's a fairly big task you'll need to do once W7 is installed and you've activated.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Vostro
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit, Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit, Linux Mint 20.1 LTS
CPU
Intel Core i5-3470 3.2 GHz
Motherboard
Intel 7 Series C/216 Chipset
Memory
6GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VC239 (23.5")
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB
Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320GB
PSU
Corsair 500W
Antivirus
Microsoft Essentials, Malwarebytes, Kapersky Rescue Disk
Browser
Firefox 87 64 Bit
The PC was shipped (to my dad) with Windows XP, then upgraded along the way to W7. For that upgrade they used volume license, so since PK sticker is gone, I had to use PK Finder software. All I get back is BBBBB... So the new copy W7 had to be genuine, or it definitely wouldn't work. It's a sealed OEM copy of W7 64 AND 32, so I should be safe there.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 410
OS
OH
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