Install without 100MB partition new drive

[nate42nd]

Didn't really read more then the first page (its 4:17am so I'm tired) although, the way I get rid of the 100mb partition is..

During setup, after it creates the 100mb partition, delete the other one (the one you want to use, trust me), then 'format' the 100mb partition, then 'Extend' the 100mb partition to use all of the one we deleted earlier.

That is how I do it anyways, quick and simple.

I thought I had done this and it didn't work. Maybe I didn't do it right. It would not let me delete the small partition.

 

[Dark Nova Gamer]

Didn't really read more then the first page (its 4:17am so I'm tired) although, the way I get rid of the 100mb partition is..

During setup, after it creates the 100mb partition, delete the other one (the one you want to use, trust me), then 'format' the 100mb partition, then 'Extend' the 100mb partition to use all of the one we deleted earlier.

That is how I do it anyways, quick and simple.

I thought I had done this and it didn't work. Maybe I didn't do it right. It would not let me delete the small partition.

You don't delete the 100mb partition, you delete the SECOND one, the one it creates to install Windows on.

When its deleted it turns into unallocated space, then you format the 100mb partition, then extend it and give it all of the space from the one we deleted.

Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.

 

[nate42nd]

I see. Yes I get it now. I should have thought of that. I sat here for 20 minutes trying to make it work. I cannot believe I didn't think of that.

Thanks

 

[Dark Nova Gamer]

I see. Yes I get it now. I should have thought of that. I sat here for 20 minutes trying to make it work. I cannot believe I didn't think of that.

Thanks

We all overlook the smallest things at times.

 

[nate42nd]

I also am wondering if it would be "aligned" for my SSD properly with that method. I will have to ask the SSD forum guys.

 

[zrtom]

Didn't really read more then the first page (its 4:17am so I'm tired) although, the way I get rid of the 100mb partition is..

During setup, after it creates the 100mb partition, delete the other one (the one you want to use, trust me), then 'format' the 100mb partition, then 'Extend' the 100mb partition to use all of the one we deleted earlier.

That is how I do it anyways, quick and simple.

I'm going through this procedure in my mind and I have a question. You've got the install disk running and you're at the select disk/format disk window... When W7 creates the 100MB partition isn't that after you click next and it starts copying files? Do you interrupt that and then start over to go back and delete the c:\ partition and extent the 100MB partition? Or is there another opportunity to do that before it starts copying files and installing?
Thanx.
Tom

 

[nate42nd]

You can't use my tutorial on page one unless you do it at the beginning. This way when you get to the point where you are dealing with partitions, there is already one there. It's really for new disks.

I didn't use my own tutorial because I wanted my SSD partition to be aligned. I don't know if my way of doing it will align it.

To answer your question, you can't interrupt it and go back. I tried.

 

[SIW2]

I don't understand why you would NOT want the boot partition to be there. It also contains the Windows Recovery Environment that can help you recover from a corrupted operating system.

Sometimes doing something just because you can isn't the best reason.

Show Hidden files and look in the 100mb system partition. See if you can find the 143 mb ( for 32bit ) or 165 mb ( for 64 bit) WinRe.

 

[Creer]

Why do you need to delete this extra 100MB partition? It's not a lot of space, I leave it alone as it is on my PC

 

[nate42nd]

Didn't really read more then the first page (its 4:17am so I'm tired) although, the way I get rid of the 100mb partition is..

During setup, after it creates the 100mb partition, delete the other one (the one you want to use, trust me), then 'format' the 100mb partition, then 'Extend' the 100mb partition to use all of the one we deleted earlier.

That is how I do it anyways, quick and simple.

I thought I had done this and it didn't work. Maybe I didn't do it right. It would not let me delete the small partition.

You don't delete the 100mb partition, you delete the SECOND one, the one it creates to install Windows on.

When its deleted it turns into unallocated space, then you format the 100mb partition, then extend it and give it all of the space from the one we deleted.

Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.

Hey DarkNovaGamer, if you (or anyone else) sees this, will doing this method you suggested, do you know if the partition woudl be properly aligned for my SSD? I cannot seem to find out. I plan to do it but would like the partition aligned.

 

[Dark Nova Gamer]

I thought I had done this and it didn't work. Maybe I didn't do it right. It would not let me delete the small partition.

You don't delete the 100mb partition, you delete the SECOND one, the one it creates to install Windows on.

When its deleted it turns into unallocated space, then you format the 100mb partition, then extend it and give it all of the space from the one we deleted.

Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.

Hey DarkNovaGamer, if you (or anyone else) sees this, will doing this method you suggested, do you know if the partition woudl be properly aligned for my SSD? I cannot seem to find out. I plan to do it but would like the partition aligned.

Never used a SSD, want one but to pricey.

What do you mean by 'properly aligned'?

 

[nate42nd]

Uhhhh, I don't know all about it. I do know SSD partitions need to be aligned to work at peak performance. You can use diskpart (I think, may be some other tool) to check and align if needed. I will start researching it. I think extending the small one will probably do it. Plus the version I got was Pro so it may not even have the small partition.

Thanks for all your help man.. Have a great day

 

[zrtom]

Hey Nate,
Alignment is very critical with SSDs.
Here's a guide from the OCZ forums. It may sound a little confusing but it's not that confusing. If you have any ??? after reading this over, just let me know.

Guide Partition alignment importance under Windows XP (32-bit and 64-bit)..why it helps with stuttering and increases drive working life. - OCZ Forum
Tom

 

[nate42nd]

Thanks, I will read through it. I have seen it before and YES it did confuse me. I can understand it though. I will just have to think a little.

It also says "for XP" . . . . Windows Vista and Windows 7 do it by themselves if you do it right. I just don't know if using this method is "doing it right"

Thank you so much for the link.

 

[Dickstar]

Is this partition visible in Windows, and does it have any real disadvantages?

 

[SIW2]

Yes, it;'s visible.

The main advantage is if you are using bitlocker.

The disavantages - it uses up 1 of your allowed 4 partitions. It is the Active partition and can cause problems e.g. if running an upgrade/repair install on Vista. It can be tricky if using a bcd editor to add entries for other o/s.

 

[Dickstar]

I'm not going to use bitlocker.

Thanks for the info. I'll keep this in mind. For now, I'm going to do an in-place install of 7 over my Vista. In the coming months I'm planning on buying an SSD and do a clean install on that one.

 

[Nosmo]

Is there any way to avoid the 100 mb partition if one runs setup from within XP and the only drive is C: and it is a single partition with no unallocated space?

 

[nate42nd]

If you run setup from within XP you will just get an error. I don't think it can be done.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Nosmo:


I would assume the instructions at the top of this thread would work. I used those instructions, although I had Vista, not XP.

Any particular reason you would start the install from within XP rather than booting from the Win 7 install CD? I don't know that it makes any difference, but I chose to boot from the disc and then dropped into the diskpart command.