Solved Installing Linux to "triple-boot" with XP and Win7

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I've got a fine working dual-boot system with Windows XP Professional SP3 and Windows 7 Ultimate. I'm gonna install Ubuntu Linux 10, but I also want to keep both Windows systems. I googled after it, and I found many tutorials showing how to install Ubuntu to dual-boot with either XP or Vista(win7), but none of them explained, what to do if I want to have three systems. I've got a SATA hard disk with a capacity of 320 GB(298 GB actually) There are two partitions, C: (198 GB) and D: (99,3 GB). Win7 is installed on C:, XP on D:. Since there's no more free space I'm planning to shrink the C: volume to make space for Ubuntu, without formatting it from within Windows.(approx 30-40 GB) Then I'm gonna install Ubuntu by letting it to use the largest continuous free space available. I'm gonna use GRUB instead of the Windows Bootloader.

My only question is, whether this will work(I mean whether such problems can occur, e.g. XP won't start up, data lost etc.), and if there are additional things to do, when installing such a "Triple-boot-system"? When I follow the steps explained above, will everything work, will the bootloader show all operating systems? Or if not, please let me know how to configure it. Thanks in advance.
 

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Hello.



Yes what you propose is possible but you will be asking for all sorts of future issues between Windows and GRUB, please, the first thing to do is make reliable back-ups of all the data you don't want to lose before you do anything to change the way the system boots now.


The smart way to do this is to install Linux to a separate Hard Disk Drive (HDD) and use the BIOS to control the boot between the Windows HDD and the Linux HDD at system startup; have a look at the info below for some ideas and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.


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The easiest way to do away with boot issues between separate Operating Systems (OS) is to use the BIOS one time boot menu to select which OS to boot at system startup, each motherboard has an individual hot-key to tap during system start-up to access this menu.

If you have 2 separate Hard Disk Drives (HDD) and have one OS installed to one HDD and you want to install another OS to the second HDD, disconnect the HDD with the first OS installed on it and leave only the HDD you want to install the second OS to connected.

Just be sure not to change where the original HDD SATA cable was connected, it has to be re-connected to the exact same port to avoid boot issues.

Install the second OS to the connected HDD and when complete and the system is booting good, power down and reconnect the first HDD with the first OS on it.

This way the OSs will boot independently of each other and there will be no boot conflicts between the 2 separate OSs to have to sort later.

Then set the BIOS to boot the HDD / OS you want as default and if you want to start the other (new) OS you use the BIOS one-time boot menu to select that HDD / OS to start when the PC is started.

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Thanks for your response, but unfortunately, since I'm gonna do this on a laptop, there's no possibility to connect another HDD. As you've written above, what I'm planning to do, may work, but you also wrote that I might encounter some issues between Windows and GRUB. What problems may then occur, what things require more attention? Thanks for your help.

BTW, I was testing Ubuntu right now without installing it, and it worked fine, and I was able to access all data on the hard drive, so there won't hopefully be any problems with the system itself.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
MSI CR700X-023HU
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows XP Pro SP3 Dual Boot
CPU
Intel Celeron Dual-Core T3000 @1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
MSI
Memory
3 GB DDR2/667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8200 M G
Sound Card
Realtek High Definiton Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop built in
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
Keyboard
Hungarian layout
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Microsoft Arc Mouse
Internet Speed
80/40 Mbps
If you are worried about problems, why not virtualize? I don't understand why people are still messing with multi-boot systems anymore. Simple, free, and it leaves your host OS untouched.
 

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Nvidia GTX 470
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Finally it succeeded to install Ubuntu without any problems. During the installation I created an ext4 and a swap partition for the ubuntu system. In GRUB, there are three options to select: Ubuntu, Ubuntu in safe mode, and Win7 loader, and by selecting this, you'll get the old boot screen, showing only the two windows systems. It seemed to be quite easy, with no problems.(until now :D) Thanks for your help!
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
MSI CR700X-023HU
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows XP Pro SP3 Dual Boot
CPU
Intel Celeron Dual-Core T3000 @1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
MSI
Memory
3 GB DDR2/667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8200 M G
Sound Card
Realtek High Definiton Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop built in
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
Keyboard
Hungarian layout
Mouse
Microsoft Arc Mouse
Internet Speed
80/40 Mbps
If you are worried about problems, why not virtualize? I don't understand why people are still messing with multi-boot systems anymore. Simple, free, and it leaves your host OS untouched.

Running an operating system on the machine is much better than virtualizing, because I was planning to install this Ubuntu for everyday use, but I also wanted to keep the Windows systems. An emulated system is much slower, and since the virtual machine has limited performance, some features of the guest os don't work.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
MSI CR700X-023HU
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows XP Pro SP3 Dual Boot
CPU
Intel Celeron Dual-Core T3000 @1.8 Ghz
Motherboard
MSI
Memory
3 GB DDR2/667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8200 M G
Sound Card
Realtek High Definiton Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop built in
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320GB
Keyboard
Hungarian layout
Mouse
Microsoft Arc Mouse
Internet Speed
80/40 Mbps
Hello again.



Good to see you found a solution that works for you and thanks for the update.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
* BFK Customs *
OS
W 7 64-bit Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q Pro
Memory
8GB Dominator 8500C5D
Graphics Card(s)
ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
Monitor(s) Displays
1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
Case
Cooler Master RC-690
Cooling
Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
Keyboard
Microsoft 500
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
14 Mb/s
Other Info
1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack
Running an operating system on the machine is much better than virtualizing, because I was planning to install this Ubuntu for everyday use, but I also wanted to keep the Windows systems. An emulated system is much slower, and since the virtual machine has limited performance, some features of the guest os don't work.
I'm not sure where you are getting your info from, or who's been telling you this, but I wouldn't listen to them anymore, to be honest.

Have you used a virtual machine in the last year or so? You get nearly native speed, and now you can even run 3D apps, like games, with support as well. USB and external peripherals are all accessible as well. VMs have direct host access to memory, processors, network adapters, etc.

If you truly believe what you posted to me...do yourself a favor and read up on the subject. You're missing out on a better, cleaner solution.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
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