Installing OS on Virtual machine

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I have installed Oracle VM Box and installed Win XP therein. All OK but do I need to install an anti Virus software to the OS in the VM Box or will the A/V on my PC protect it?
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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You can install anti virus on the VM as it could become infected.
As it runs seperate from the host machine I don't think there is any risk to the host if the VM becomes infected though.
 

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openSUSE 13.1 64bit
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All onboard
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I have installed Oracle VM Box and installed Win XP therein. All OK but do I need to install an anti Virus software to the OS in the VM Box or will the A/V on my PC protect it?
VM and HOST are totally seperated. They can talk to each other using a "virtual switch" so a virtual network inside your pc. So yes.... install antivirus
 

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ACER ASPIRE 5742G
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
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Acer Aspire 5742G
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4,00 GB
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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
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(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
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1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
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WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
I would say no as your host OS takes care of all that. I don`t agree with you guys as everything is coming through the host. I never put antivirus on a virtual machine. Your not gonna load it up with a bunch of garbage are you ? Just the programs that you need to run on it, correct ?

Think of it as a yard inside your yard.
 

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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
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Chrome
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I think Brian is wrong. vBox has it's own path to the net. There is not a big risk that the host will get infected (only possible thru shared data), but losing the virtual machine is no fun either. I would install MSE - better than nothing.
 

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I would say no as your host OS takes care of all that. I don`t agree with you guys as everything is coming through the host. I never put antivirus on a virtual machine. Your not gonna load it up with a bunch of garbage are you ? Just the programs that you need to run on it, correct ?

Brian, this time I need to argue with you :rolleyes:.

A virtual machine is like any other PC in your network. It can not and will not in any circumstances use any of protective measures of your host, needing totally independent protection (AV and firewall). Leaving a vm without AV protection is absolutely the same than leaving a physical computer without protection; you can do it but it is dangerous.

You say that everything comes through host. That is completely false information. A virtual machine communicates independently with the network.

I was shocked and surprised seeing this kind of foolhardy advice coming from you! We can not tell people not to protect their computers, physical or virtual. It is really bad advice.

Think of it as a yard inside your yard.
No, absolutely no! It is a totally different yard that just happens to be in connection with your yard. It has its own ecosystem, street number and mailbox by the street, it is separated from your yard with a clearly visible fence.

To OP: Please remember that a virtual machine is its own computer. It connects to network directly, not "through" your host. In every aspect it is as any other computer on your network.

Kari
 

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6 GB
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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
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Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
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17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
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1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
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Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
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As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
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Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
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Logitech Performance Mouse MX
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Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
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Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Something important I forgot from above:

Nothing, absolutely nothing coming in or going out to / from a virtual machine is not, will not be and could not be blocked / inspected / controlled by AV and firewall of the host. The virtual machines network traffic does not go "through" the host.

Kari
 

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HP ENVY 17-1150eg
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Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Many thanks for the most informative replies. I have installed MSE!
 

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OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8H77-M
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
(1) INTEL SSDSC2CT180A3 ATA Device (2) ST500DM002-1BD142 ATA Device (3) WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 ATA Device (4) Generic- Compact Flash USB Device (5) Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device (6) Generic- SD/MMC USB Device (7) Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB
PSU
500w Corsair
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
3 Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK300
Mouse
Logitech WOM
Internet Speed
75Mb
Antivirus
Norton 360
Browser
Firefox, Opera, IE
Good to know, John. That's the one I use on all my vms. Costs nothing and takes not too much resources.

In using the XP vm always treat it as its own computer. As mentioned in previous posts, it communicates directly and independently with your local network and the Internet, having its own local IP on your network.

I would recommend you to learn to use VirtualBox Snapshot function as the "Plan B" (VirtualBox Snapshot is the same for your vm as a system image to a physical computer); creating snapshots helps you to revert to an earlier image if despite your efforts an infection happens, or if for some other reason the vm stops working.

Restoring an image in VirtualBox happens instantly, just select a saved snapshot and boot it to get your vm as it was at the moment of creating the snapshot.

Kari
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
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