Solved Installing using "Run as administrator"

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I'm an administrator on my personal laptop (Win 7 Home Premium). On my company laptop (Win 7 Pro), I have full installation privileges (but not all of the configuration privileges).

Question: In my case, when I want to install a program, is there any difference between the following two sets of actions?:

- Double-click on a file in Win Explorer. In the UAC dialog, click "Yes".
- Right-click on a file. In the popup, select "Run as administrator". In the UAC dialog, click "Yes".
 

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Laptop
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Dell Inspiron 17R
OS
Win 7 64-bit Home Premium
Memory
4 GB
Hello OG as I read it - it seems you can install any program with either action so I am wondering what is concerning you re the OK for doing installs etc?

What I find rather strange is how come you can install a program yet do not have configuration rights - is that on your own machine as well??
 

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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
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Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
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Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
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Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
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Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
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Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
As you are using Company hardware & software have a word with the Company IT Administrator, to see what rights you have.
 

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As you are using Company hardware & software have a word with the Company IT Administrator, to see what rights you have.
Hmm was thinking that Theog but you have put it so much more concisely;)
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Question: In my case, when I want to install a program, is there any difference between the following two sets of actions?:
- Double-click on a file in Win Explorer. In the UAC dialog, click "Yes".
- Right-click on a file. In the popup, select "Run as administrator". In the UAC dialog, click "Yes".


There is a difference, When a program supports uac and you launch it, it will prompt for elevation and give the uac prompt. Older software that is not aware of UAC will need to be right clicked and ran as admin.
 

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Custom Built
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Windows 10 Pro
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AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
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ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
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G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
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2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
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Motherboard Built in
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Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
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1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
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CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
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CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
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220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
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Wired Dell keyboard
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Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Chrome-ish x64
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Your awesome for reading this.
(a) When a program supports uac and you launch it, it will prompt for elevation and give the uac prompt.

(b) Older software that is not aware of UAC will need to be right clicked and ran as admin.

I've labelled your responses as (a) and (b).

I think my original question must have been very badly worded, because I don't understand any of the other responses. So far, I've been unable to think of a better way to ask my question. I think your post has provided the opportunity.

Here's the reworded question. For some programs, if I use your method (b), will the installed program present more options than would be available using method (a)?

Reason for question: I never used Vista, because I uninstalled it from a Dell laptop on the same day as it arrived, and I installed my own copy of XP. (At that time, Vista was only about 3 months old, and full of problems.)

But I heard that some programs had a reduced option set if installed under normal user privileges - rather than admin privileges. (Other programs presented the same set of options irrespective of who installed the program.)

Whether or not that is true for Vista is irrelevant - maybe it's all nonsense. But that's the reason I'm asking the question for Windows 7. Better safe than sorry.

Currently, when I install a new program, I automatically double-click on the EXE. It's just a habit from years of XP. As soon as I see the UAC dialog, I close the dialog and start again by right-clicking the EXE.

BTW: To answer the other good posters, who are obviously attempting to be helpful. For my company laptop, here's an example that comes to mind regarding configuration rights. In rare cases, I'm unable to install a program due to the fact that I'm unable to temporarily disable antivirus. (The option is greyed out.) In that case, a Help Desk person takes control of my laptop and installs the program. I can clearly see the AV being disabled, then re-enabled after the install.

On my personal laptop, I can do anything.

Thanks to all the responders.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 17R
OS
Win 7 64-bit Home Premium
Memory
4 GB
In both cases the installer will run as administrator and the installation will proceed exactly the same. It is one of those cases where Windows provides multiple ways of doing the same thing. The "Run as Administrator" option is needed when installing older applications that don't know about UAC. Most installers require administrative rights to function properly. Older applications will simply assume they have them and fail when something doesn't work.

It appears that the computer is a member of a domain and subject to a domain group policy. This can restrict the abilities of even an admin account. IT staff would have access to an account that is not restricted by the policy.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Xeon W3520
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 210
In both cases the installer will run as administrator and the installation will proceed exactly the same.

That sounds fine by me. Problem solved :)

Thanks for your help.
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My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 17R
OS
Win 7 64-bit Home Premium
Memory
4 GB
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