Integrated graphics driver

[DreemWarrior]

Ok, so if a system has integrated graphics, and a vga out, you don't necessariy HAVE to have a card to run it,correct?
So obviously, this is without a card installed...
Messing with an older Athlon/Asus setup and I installed a new CPU (X64 5000)
and it wont even post. The HDD spins up, mobo lights, but nothing getting to the monitor. I DID buy a used CPU, and it APPEARS to be fine( no bent pins,etc)
I'm thinking it needs a card either way..??
--->Deer in the headlights look...<---

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AMD Athlon

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™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor 4600+ for TRUE Multi-tasking(a)

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AMD Live
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512KB+512KB L2 Cache
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2000MT/s System Bus
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NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
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2048MB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM memory​

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250GB 7200RPM Serial ATA hard drive​

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Optical Drive(s)

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SuperMulti DVD Burner with LightScribe Technology: 16x DVD±R, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW,
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CDRW, 40x CD-ROM

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Video Graphics

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Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE Graphics with up to 256MB shared video memory ​

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10/100Base-T network interface
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High Definition Audio, 8 speaker configurable
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Memory Slots

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4 DIMM (240-pin, DDR2) (


(OK, I have NO idea where that lil drunk dude came from...)
Is this an earky april fools gag peeps??? If so, its a good one!​

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[DreemWarrior]

Now thats avatar I can relate to! But seriously...whodunnit?

 

[CommonTater]

Ok, so if a system has integrated graphics, and a vga out, you don't necessariy HAVE to have a card to run it,correct?
So obviously, this is without a card installed...
Messing with an older Athlon/Asus setup and I installed a new CPU (X64 5000)
and it wont even post. The HDD spins up, mobo lights, but nothing getting to the monitor. I DID buy a used CPU, and it APPEARS to be fine( no bent pins,etc)
I'm thinking it needs a card either way..??
--->Deer in the headlights look...<---

Nope... if it's got a VGA plug on it, it's got built in graphics, most boards do these days.

Have you tried a CMOS reset?

It's an Asus board so it probably has a CMOS reset jumper... You'll need to download the manual for it to be sure...

The squence is quite easy...

1) totally power down the machine (unplug it)
2) Move the jumper to the "clear CMOS" position
3) Turn the power back on and start the computer
4) Move the jumper back to it's operating position

This should give you a "CMOS setting bad" message (or similar).
In any case it should get you to the video...
Press Del to go into the BIOS and go through the settings.
I'm betting it's had a buscard video in it and the on-board video is disabled.

 

[DreemWarrior]

Ok, so if a system has integrated graphics, and a vga out, you don't necessariy HAVE to have a card to run it,correct?
So obviously, this is without a card installed...
Messing with an older Athlon/Asus setup and I installed a new CPU (X64 5000)
and it wont even post. The HDD spins up, mobo lights, but nothing getting to the monitor. I DID buy a used CPU, and it APPEARS to be fine( no bent pins,etc)
I'm thinking it needs a card either way..??
--->Deer in the headlights look...<---

Nope... if it's got a VGA plug on it, it's got built in graphics, most boards do these days.

Have you tried a CMOS reset?

It's an Asus board so it probably has a CMOS reset jumper... You'll need to download the manual for it to be sure...

The squence is quite easy...

1) totally power down the machine (unplug it)
2) Move the jumper to the "clear CMOS" position
3) Turn the power back on and start the computer
4) Move the jumper back to it's operating position

This should give you a "CMOS setting bad" message (or similar).
In any case it should get you to the video...
Press Del to go into the BIOS and go through the settings.
I'm betting it's had a buscard video in it and the on-board video is disabled.

No I haven't tried that actually...duh I think if you just move the jumper and wait like 3 min the put it back it clears it, right? I'll check websoite to be sure. Thanks for the memory purge. I needed that apparently

 

[MadMaxData]

The squence is quite easy...

1) totally power down the machine (unplug it)
2) Move the jumper to the "clear CMOS" position
3) Turn the power back on and start the computer
4) Move the jumper back to it's operating position

This should give you a "CMOS setting bad" message (or similar).
In any case it should get you to the video...
Press Del to go into the BIOS and go through the settings.
I'm betting it's had a buscard video in it and the on-board video is disabled.

Umm, you should NEVER power up your rig with the jumper setting on clear CMOS, as it could damage your motherboard. Every rig I own has that stated in the manual. It will also void any warranty. All you need to do is set the jumper to clear CMOS, and then wait a few minutes and change it back. The motherboard battery is sufficient power to clear it. And you should NEVER attempt to change jumper settings while the motherboard is powered up.


Max

 

[MadMaxData]

No I haven't tried that actually...duh I think if you just move the jumper and wait like 3 min the put it back it clears it, right?

Yes, that is the proper protocol.

 

[DreemWarrior]

The squence is quite easy...

1) totally power down the machine (unplug it)
2) Move the jumper to the "clear CMOS" position
3) Turn the power back on and start the computer
4) Move the jumper back to it's operating position

This should give you a "CMOS setting bad" message (or similar).
In any case it should get you to the video...
Press Del to go into the BIOS and go through the settings.
I'm betting it's had a buscard video in it and the on-board video is disabled.

Umm, you should NEVER power up your rig with the jumper setting on clear CMOS, as it could damage your motherboard. Every rig I own has that stated in the manual. It will also void any warranty. All you need to do is set the jumper to clear CMOS, and then wait a few minutes and change it back. The motherboard battery is sufficient power to clear it. And you should NEVER attempt to change jumper settings while the motherboard is powered up.


Max

Right...yeah all I've ever done is just move it for few, the replace it. Trying that now...

 

[MadMaxData]

Right...yeah all I've ever done is just move it for few, the replace it. Trying that now...

Phew! I was hoping I would catch you before you powered up with the clear CMOS jumper shorted. I almost had a heart attack....LOL

By the way, CommonTater gives really good advice, he just happened to make a mistake in this instance. You can trust him to bring you the rest of the way home with this troubleshooting procedure, no problem.

 

[DreemWarrior]

Phew! I was hoping I would catch you before you powered up with the clear CMOS jumper shorted. I almost had a heart attack....LOL

LOL Thanks for lookin out there max. But no, power+moving jumpers/cables=trouble!
And we ALL make mistakes every now and then. Its all good

 

[DreemWarrior]

Well, no joy there....getting ready to do a PSU test I suppose....

Well,thats not a good sign at all. PSU is fine....Mem in wrong DIMM?

 

[MadMaxData]

LOL Thanks for lookin out there max. But no, power+moving jumpers/cables=trouble!
And we ALL make mistakes every now and then. Its all good

Yes, we ALL make mistakes. And your welcome for the heads up.

Well, no joy there....getting ready to do a PSU test I suppose....

If it won't even post with the new CPU, you might need a BIOS update because that CPU isn't supported with your old one. However, I would take other steps before you attempt to flash the BIOS. Save that as an absolute last option. Have you checked to see if the motherboard supports that CPU? I doubt it's a PSU problem, but you never know. Have you tried using a GFX card instead of onboard GFX, just to see if you can access the BIOS?

What was the first CPU you had in there, before you decided to upgrade?

Also, use only one stick of RAM right now, so we can get things sorted out, and to rule out any memory module problems.

 

[MadMaxData]

Just for clarification. When you power up what happens? Nothing? Or can you actually get into the BIOS, but it won't POST after you exit and attempt to boot?

 

[DreemWarrior]

Just for clarification. When you power up what happens? Nothing? Or can you actually get into the BIOS, but it won't POST after you exit and attempt to boot?

No....its not even posting. I gon't know tho. I mean all the fans kick in, the HDD spins up,but the monitor is dead.I did check for compatability...it disnt say it WASNT supported....but it was in the yellow as far as that goes.
Heres a thought. i wonder if these modules need to be on DIFFERENT lanes, being as they are identicle?? Sometimes mobos require mem of the same density/timing be opposite one another....

What was the first CPU you had in there, before you decided to upgrade?

That would be an Athlon 64 x2 4600 w bent pins. I picked this one up for $40 from a kid. Coulda beed his last OC failure for all I know.....hoping not, because this lil man should run well.

 

[MadMaxData]

No....its not even posting. I gon't know tho. I mean all the fans kick in, the HDD spins up,but the monitor is dead.I did check for compatability...it disnt say it WASNT supported....but it was in the yellow as far as that goes.
Heres a thought. i wonder if these modules need to be on DIFFERENT lanes, being as they are identicle?? Sometimes mobos require mem of the same density/timing be opposite one another....

Like I said, just use a single memory module for now just to eliminate any possible module problem.

That would be an Athlon 64 x2 4600 w bent pins. I picked this one up for $40 from a kid. Coulda beed his last OC failure for all I know.....hoping not, because this lil man should run well.

Oh okay, so you can't even get into the BIOS. In that case, I would be willing to bet you bought a bad CPU. It's definately not a GFX issue then.

You said the old CPU was an AMD Athlon 64 x2 4600...what's the new one? If it's an Opteron, many motherboards that support the old one, do not support Opteron.

Is the only thing bad about your old one, bent pins? Did you try to bend them back and run it?

Another thought is trying to reseat the new one your trying to install. I've had that happen to me more than a few times. I reseated the CPU, and boom...back in business! If your old one ran fine, but then you bent the pins and trashed it, but now the new one won't even let you into the BIOS, then it's a problem with the CPU, and nothing else. Barring any memory module problem, like not being seated.


Max

 

[DreemWarrior]

You said the old CPU was an AMD Athlon 64 x2 4600...what's the new one? If it's an Opteron, many motherboards that support the old one, do not support Opteron.

Its a 5000. I never ran the old one. Like I said it was a donor rig. But I had most everytrhing for it nminus CPU, so I bought one and here we are..?? And no..I didnt bend them, it came to me that way. I think I'll leave that for tomorrow though. I will pull the mem and try to reseat at the same time.
I'll post back here with the results.
And hey, thanks for the tips/chatter.

 

[MadMaxData]

It's my pleasure to help you out. This is the only place I can talk about PC's and people actually understand me...LOL

I wish I would have found this forum a long time ago.

Yeah, let me know what happens after a reseat.

Oh, and as an added tip, I've found taking a pencil eraser over the copper prongs on memory modules to clean them up works great. I also use a canister vaccum with one of those little attatchments to clean out memory DIMM's on a motherboard to be useful too.

 

[DreemWarrior]

Hmm an eraser huh? Good one. And yeah, I know what you mean about ppls understanding/giving a Sht. what your talking about.

 

[DreemWarrior]

Ok, well mafter removing a module, and replacing the CMOS battery, 7 is nopw installing like a dream...well...so far.lol
Still copying files. When it shuts down for reboot, I'll reinstall the other mem module, and that should be that. Now I have to find a mid-road card cheap for it,and more mem, and shes going to spread those AMD wings for me.

 

[CarlTR6]

Glad to hear it is going well so far.

 

[DreemWarrior]

Glad to hear it is going well so far.

Fingers crossed...