intel 2nd and 3rd Gen. processors with built in graphics vs 1st gen.

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I have an intel core i5 750 2.66GHZ Lynfield for socket LGA 1156 and a HIS hd 4850 graphics card. I was curious if the newer cpus with the on board graphics were as good or better, than using a decent graphics card? I was thinking about buying a motherboard/cpu combo from New EGG wanting to uppgrade not because I need to, just one of those want to type projects. I wanted to check here first with more experienced people who are familiar with the new intel processors etc. I have a Gigabyte P55M-UD2 Motherboard, 8 Gigs of G Skill ddr3 memory and a Corsair tx 850 power supply. I was just mainly wanting to get a processor/Motherboard combo but, was wondering about the onboard cpu graphics vs. add on graphics cards. I get all my parts from new EGG and any combo suggestions from there that would be a decent upgrade would be greatly appreciated. :)
 

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It depends on what you do with your computer. For general usage, the new, onboard graphics chips would be more than adequate. If you do any 3D work or play any games outside of Facebook, etc, you will want to keep your 4850, or upgrade your card as well.
 

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If you are just a PC user who uses productivity style applications, then the onboard graphics options are the way to go. They reduce clutter in your case, reduce heat, reduce power consumption and most importantly reduce your cost.

If you are a gamer though, plan to stick with a dedicated graphics card. The onboard options can handle graphics to an extent, but they cannot in any way replace the functionality of a $200-$500 dedicated GPU.
 

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Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
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This pc is used for burning DVD's, FaceBook games, and web browsing and that's about it. :)
 

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windows 7 Professional 64-bitintel i5 4670kG.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
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custom build
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windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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intel i5 4670k
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A
Memory
G.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
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HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
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onboard
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HP w2408h HDMI
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SamSung 840 ssd 120 GB
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Corsair HX 1050 Gold
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
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onboard video would be ideal for that type of usage.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
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23" Acer x233H
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1920x1080
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Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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Corsair 620HX modular
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Antec P182
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stock
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ABS M1 Mechanical
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Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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15/2 cable modem
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Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
I agree. I'm using a Dell Optiplex 790 with an i5-2400 processor in it right now. I am the IT Director for the company, so I do everything from manage the servers to edit/prep video for presentations. I am only using the onboard graphics, and I have no issues.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
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OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
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OCZ ModStream 700W
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CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
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CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
This pc is used for burning DVD's, FaceBook games, and web browsing and that's about it. :)

I've got an Intel i5-2500 processor, which uses Intel 2000 graphics. I have no separate video card and haven't yet seen a need to get one.

I think I read that the 2000 graphics were roughly equivalent to a 5450 video card?

The newer Intel CPUs have Intel 2500, 3000, and I think even 4000 graphics and are "better", but the 2000 is plenty good enough for general use.

Put the saved money into an SSD.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bitIntel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)none; graphics are integrated on CPU
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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
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Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
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Antec Solo II
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Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
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Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
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Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
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Pale Moon
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All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
I'm running a Core i3-2100t in a new machine destined to be a file server at my house and it's got the Intel HD 2000 graphics. I've been using this machine for the past couple of weeks more or less as a desktop getting things setup, hardware tested, etc. I'm completely satisfied with the onboard video for everything I have thrown at this box.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timingsEVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
A SSD. wouldn't really be of extra benefit for my case since we don't do a lot of file searching on our pc and would not be beneficial for internet browsing or would it? I'm not familiar with the new solid state drives. :)
 

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windows 7 Professional 64-bitintel i5 4670kG.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
intel i5 4670k
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A
Memory
G.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2408h HDMI
Screen Resolution
1024 x 768
Hard Drives
SamSung 840 ssd 120 GB
PSU
Corsair HX 1050 Gold
Case
ALUMINUS FULL ATX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech 520
Mouse
Logitech 310
Internet Speed
10 mbs
Antivirus
Avast full version
Browser
Firefox
A SSD. wouldn't really be of extra benefit for my case since we don't do a lot of file searching on our pc and would not be beneficial for internet browsing or would it? I'm not familiar with the new solid state drives. :)

You can certainly do fine without one, but they increase the overall "snappiness" of your PC and are a better investment than more RAM or a faster processor in many cases.

Most people just put the operating system and applications on the SSD, with all data remaining on a regular drive. You wouldn't have to spend over about $100.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bitIntel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)none; graphics are integrated on CPU
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PC/Desktop
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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
An SSD benefits everything you might do. The system boot faster, apps load faster, and the system itself is much more responsive. It won't speed up your web-browsing, per se, though, as that's more of a function of your network connection.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1Intel Core i7-260012 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333Nvidia GTX 470
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
I may try one on my main tower which I have a second drive in with a backup image in case of a crash. Then I would have a second drive for my second backup tower so that I could keep a backup image on it also. :)
 

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windows 7 Professional 64-bitintel i5 4670kG.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
intel i5 4670k
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A
Memory
G.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2408h HDMI
Screen Resolution
1024 x 768
Hard Drives
SamSung 840 ssd 120 GB
PSU
Corsair HX 1050 Gold
Case
ALUMINUS FULL ATX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech 520
Mouse
Logitech 310
Internet Speed
10 mbs
Antivirus
Avast full version
Browser
Firefox

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

windows 7 Professional 64-bitintel i5 4670kG.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
intel i5 4670k
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A
Memory
G.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2408h HDMI
Screen Resolution
1024 x 768
Hard Drives
SamSung 840 ssd 120 GB
PSU
Corsair HX 1050 Gold
Case
ALUMINUS FULL ATX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech 520
Mouse
Logitech 310
Internet Speed
10 mbs
Antivirus
Avast full version
Browser
Firefox
The Gigabyte p55M-UD2 has a bunch of SATA slots, so that Intel drive should work fine. The processor doesn't much matter.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bitIntel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Thanks very much! I think I've talked the wife into splitting the cost for one. :D
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

windows 7 Professional 64-bitintel i5 4670kG.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
intel i5 4670k
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A
Memory
G.SKILL 1866mhz. 16GB. (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
HIS RADEON 4850 PCIE 2.0 ver.
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2408h HDMI
Screen Resolution
1024 x 768
Hard Drives
SamSung 840 ssd 120 GB
PSU
Corsair HX 1050 Gold
Case
ALUMINUS FULL ATX
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech 520
Mouse
Logitech 310
Internet Speed
10 mbs
Antivirus
Avast full version
Browser
Firefox
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