Intel Haswell... worth the upgrade?

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Just looking at the new Haswell processors from Intel. Thought it may be interesting to see what everyones thoughts are on the new 1150 processor.

Example on which we can work from. I will build 2 x business desktop computers both running 120GB SSD hard drives

Intel Pentium G620 / MSI B75MA-E33 total cost = £83

Intel Pentium G3220 3.00GHz (Haswell) / MSI B85M-P33 total cost = £104

Is there any real gain / price on the above? or is it too early to say?

Has anyone tried out the Haswell processors?

all comments welcome.

:D
 

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I have a Haswell rig and it's brilliant. Whether there's any gain over older tech though I can't say as I came from a long line of AMD rigs.
 

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I have a Haswell rig and it's brilliant. Whether there's any gain over older tech though I can't say as I came from a long line of AMD rigs.
Yep Boozad I am staying with Ivy for the time being as there seems to be a fair bit of bugs to be ironed out - have a mate who has been through four boards now so I am hanging on.

Plus it seems that most want it for the overclocking stuff and frankly the Ivy is plenty fast enough for me although I have to say I don't do a lot of gaming etc. The Ivy in my mind is quite well tested by now and reliable but each to their own eh??
 

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Cheers guys. no overclocking for these rigs as for business.

Icit2lol.. i'll take your advice and hang fire for the moment. I cannot see there being to much of an advantage currently and stability is my main concern.

:)
 

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ICit2lol said:
Yep Boozad I am staying with Ivy for the time being as there seems to be a fair bit of bugs to be ironed out - have a mate who has been through four boards now so I am hanging on.

Four boards already? that's mental. What boards has he had? I haven't encountered any issues or instability with the Sabertooth or the Haswell CPU at all, on the contrary they've been absolutely rock solid so far. Maybe I've just landed lucky.
 

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Icit2lol.. i'll take your advice and hang fire for the moment. I cannot see there being to much of an advantage currently and stability is my main concern.

:)
That is everyones choice ascomputers for example I ma using an i5 3570K in my Ivy and if I chose I could improve probably a bit on what I have got but adding in the i7 37770K and again the "E" version of that I think it is.
I did read just recently too that 16nm architecture is not that far away and yes the technology is getting smaller and more power efficient, but they do so do the inherent problems of how much that size build device could take, and to what exactly advantage - I don't know.

What I am thinking though is that it will be aimed more at the portable devices than what we like most of all - the desk or laptop computers. They are saying they will be redundant but I look at that in a logical manner and think to myself the folks I work with (a gov health department) have trouble using what we have now let alone something like the portable stuff it is just not practicable for that to happen and would need the staff of facilities like the ones I work in to have to have training in IT to be part of their job description and role.

Anyway when you do get around to doing something do please post back with what you have done there is plenty in this forum to keep you busy and alway a great source go help - it (SF) is how I have got used to computing and thanks almost entirely to help from the members in here.
Oh plus a touch of good luck and tail wind LOL!!
 

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It depends on what you need and what you already have. If you are running a Sandy Bridge machine, it could be worthwhile to upgrade to Haswell unless your machine is still meeting your needs. If you are running Ivy Bridge, it's unlikely you will gain enough to justify the expense unless the new boards have features you really need or want. If you are running Sandy Bridge-e, it's highly unlikely you will gain anything, especially if you are using more than 24 PCI-e lanes; you would be better off waiting for Ivy Bridge-e and just upgrade the CPU.

Keep in mind that the Haswell CPUs have, on average, been running hotter than Ivy Bridge, which has been running hotter than Sandy Bridge although that is generally a concern only if overclocking or you are running the computer hard, such as when gaming or running CPU intensive programs like photo or video editing.

In my case, I was better off going with Sandy Bridge-e for the additional PCI-e lanes than waiting for Haswell even though the new Haswell boards have some features I was lusting for.
 

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ICit2lol said:
Yep Boozad I am staying with Ivy for the time being as there seems to be a fair bit of bugs to be ironed out - have a mate who has been through four boards now so I am hanging on.

Four boards already? that's mental. What boards has he had? I haven't encountered any issues or instability with the Sabertooth or the Haswell CPU at all, on the contrary they've been absolutely rock solid so far. Maybe I've just landed lucky.
All Asus ones and different versions I don't know maybe it is just down to bad luck.
I have the Ivy like I said and a Sandy to back it up plus my old Q9550 based tester that I don't use that much any more but is there if I need it. The laptops well I just keep them for when I am away from home and am running an 8 upgrade on this one (and the Sandy Bridge) which is an interesting exercise despite all the nonsense that has been associated with it.
Right now like I said earlier the current set up I have is all I need though later on I might even do another Ivy build or just update CPU in the current one.
 

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