Intel or AMD

[kurahk7]

You didn't cut any holes on the motherboard tray?
Wire management on my Antec 900 is somewhat difficult, but luckly, I have a modular power supply

No, I did not cut any holes in my motherboard tray. Here is what the backside of the mobo tray looks like with the side off the computer

And I cannot speak highly enough of how well these dust filters work in my Antec P182 case. I popped open the case tonight to take the pictures above and was astounded by how clean everything was inside of the case still. Check out my CPU fan and my rear 120mm case fan after 9 months of use. And I assure you...I have not cleaned the actual fans 1 single time. And this computer sits downstairs in a basement about 5 inches of a carpeted floor.

Here are the dust filters in the front. They are behind two smaller door and 1 larger door. The computer pulls air in from the sides of the front door and over these filters. You can see some of the dust buildup on the lower filter.

My cpu fan, after about 1 month after I installed it (intel core i5 750 stock hsf) already has dust on the top of the blades

 

[pparks1]

Yeah, I am very impressed with how clean that Antec P182 is staying. I have 3 of the Antec 300 cases in some test machines at work and they do a pretty solid job of filtering as well. It's got a very large air filter directly in the front that account for about 70% of the height of the mid tower case. However, this case has a side vent that does seem to pull in some dust.

My other 2 desktops at home are running Antec Sonata II's and they have stayed extremely clean inside. My server, and AMD Sempron 2800+ has been running for 3 years straight and is very clean inside.

 

[kurahk7]

AMD hex cores just came out AMD Phenom II X6 1090T And 890FX Platform Review: Hello, Leo : AMD Can Do Six Cores, Too
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T and 1055T Six-Core Processor Review - AMD Phenom II X6 Processors Arrive - Legit Reviews

 

[manhunter2826]

Unsure really but my new HP laptop is indeed AMD and I'm happy with it .

 

[smarteyeball]

AMD hex cores just came out AMD Phenom II X6 1090T And 890FX Platform Review: Hello, Leo : AMD Can Do Six Cores, Too
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T and 1055T Six-Core Processor Review - AMD Phenom II X6 Processors Arrive - Legit Reviews

At least it beats intels 6 core on price I guess...

 

[sergiogarcia9]

AMD is clearly the best bang for the buck at the moment. Just compare these

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

Price difference between these are $50! I would go with AMD for my new machine, if i didnt already have the Intel board in it

 

[Bootz]

Yes but the core 2 quad would surely out perform the amd. I agree that amd is the better buy for the money ( i use amd ) , but if you want a top of the line product intel is the only way to go.

I feel the same way with ati and nvidia.

 

[Zen00]

The new Thuban core AMD processors just came out, you get comparable i5 performance with them. You should read some reviews.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

Yes but the core 2 quad would surely out perform the amd. I agree that amd is the better buy for the money ( i use amd ) , but if you want a top of the line product intel is the only way to go.

I feel the same way with ati and nvidia.

I dont know much about that part, as i dont press my CPU to the max as some others do. All i know is that the X4 620 does the job perfectly for my needs

Also, Zen, you can't always trust reviews. You gotta try it yourself, before you can be sure.

 

[pparks1]

AMD is clearly the best bang for the buck at the moment. Just compare these

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

Price difference between these are $50! I would go with AMD for my new machine, if i didnt already have the Intel board in it

Well, if you compare the benchmarks on these CPU's from a website such as this (PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks - List of Benchmarked CPUs), you will see the following scores
Intel Q8300 at 2.5Ghz: 3563. Ranks at 73
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus at 2.6Ghz: 3123. Ranks at 100

As far as bang for the buck goes, the Q8300 is $148.99 at NewEgg with Free Shipping, while the AMD Athln II X4 620 is $97.99 with Free Shipping. So the price difference is exactly $51.

I guess many of you don't remember the old days when the price difference was HUGE between the two. It used to be that the Intel chip was $400 while the AMD chip was $175. This was substantial and would be worth a small decrease in performance.

However, for me, the performance difference between these 2 chips is worth $51. And honestly, compared to the complete price of my system...$51 amounts to about 3.5% of my entire system. That's about the price of a nice keyboard, nice mouse, 1 new game, etc. Put another way, if I am going to invest in a modular power supply, an SSD drive for my OS, a $300+ video card, a super nice cooler for my CPU....why would I skimp on my processor for a savings of $51???

Obviously, if my goal was only to build for the lowest possible dollar, saving the $51 might be a deciding factor. But then I would be using a cheap case, a cheap power supply and performance would not be a decision criteria. However, when it comes to my computer, performance plays a key role.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

AMD is clearly the best bang for the buck at the moment. Just compare these

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

Price difference between these are $50! I would go with AMD for my new machine, if i didnt already have the Intel board in it

Well, if you compare the benchmarks on these CPU's from a website such as this (PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks - List of Benchmarked CPUs), you will see the following scores
Intel Q8300 at 2.5Ghz: 3563. Ranks at 73
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus at 2.6Ghz: 3123. Ranks at 100

As far as bang for the buck goes, the Q8300 is $148.99 at NewEgg with Free Shipping, while the AMD Athln II X4 620 is $97.99 with Free Shipping. So the price difference is exactly $51.

I guess many of you don't remember the old days when the price difference was HUGE between the two. It used to be that the Intel chip was $400 while the AMD chip was $175. This was substantial and would be worth a small decrease in performance.

However, for me, the performance difference between these 2 chips is worth $51. And honestly, compared to the complete price of my system...$51 amounts to about 3.5% of my entire system. That's about the price of a nice keyboard, nice mouse, 1 new game, etc. Put another way, if I am going to invest in a modular power supply, an SSD drive for my OS, a $300+ video card, a super nice cooler for my CPU....why would I skimp on my processor for a savings of $51???

While that might be true, i reckon that the best solution for a person who wants a low budget PC, is to go with AMD.

 

[pparks1]

While that might be true, i reckon that the best solution for a person who wants a low budget PC, is to go with AMD.

Yes, without a doubt...AMD has cheaper processor options even if they do result in lower performance. I'm not anti AMD in any way shape or form. I have 2 of their CPU's in 2 of my machines. It all comes down to what you are trying to accomplish and what want to spend. But I don't think it's fair to say across the board that Intel is overpriced and AMD is always "best bang for the buck".

I just find it funny when somebody wants to build a machine on a middle of the road budget that anytime I suggest sticking with an Intel CPU for performance reasons, the AMD fans come out screaming like I have made a terrible mistake and have just screwed over the end user.

 

[alphanumeric]

lol, the only Intel PC in the house is my daughters HP-Mini netbook with an Atom processor. My main rig is an Athlon II X4 620 Quad Core, backup rig is an Athlon XP 3200+. I also have an Athlon XP 1800+ and a lowly Athlon 1100 still in use. It's all about budget for me. I don't have a lot to spend on PC hardware so I usually end up starting with a bare bones system. The AMD systems seem to be the best bang for the buck and the most complete systems.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

Athlon II X4 620 Quad core FTW!
Gotta be the best CPU i've ever had, runs every application i got smoothly

 

[Zen00]

I admit to being a semi AMD fanboy. I root for the underdog so to say and long for the day when AMD releases a more powerful, cheaper chip than Intel, like back in the early 2000's again.

 

[kurahk7]

You also gotta remember that AMD provides a easy upgrade route without buying a new motherboard. One can have an AMD Athlon x2 and be able to upgrade to the new AMD Phenom II x6, oh and Tigerdirect has them on sale right now..... AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz 6-Core CPU for $149!! - Legit Reviews

 

[mpcrsc562]

You also gotta remember that AMD provides a easy upgrade route without buying a new motherboard. One can have an AMD Athlon x2 and be able to upgrade to the new AMD Phenom II x6, oh and Tigerdirect has them on sale right now..... AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz 6-Core CPU for $149!! - Legit Reviews

That's kinda right... Some cheaper boards may only support processors up to 95W TDP--the X6 is 125W TDP. But, even if you have to buy a new board, you can get some good AMD boards for not too much $.

 

[Wallonn7]

I think Intel if you want the absoulte best performance, but have to pay alot(those i7's 980X) but, AMD is great cost with amazing over-clock-ablity(much easier then in intel i think) And as always, im always with AMD graphics, bah nvidia and those 480's... 5970 alll the wayyyyy!

I'm with you!!!