Solved INTEL to AMD Windows Boot Fail

Metalmonkey47

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Alright guys, this is gonna be a fun one.

I bought a new AMD AM3+ 8 core processor and Asrock mobo from Microcenter tonight, got home and stripped the old outdated Intel gear, for the AMD.

I've got all of my AMD setup wires tucked neatly, get it to it's bay, turn it on and fail..


It boots past the BIOS okay, and starts Windows loading screen, but about 20 seconds in screen goes black, and it starts the whole process over again. Same deal with trying to boot in safe mode.

I feel like I'm in deep now :cry: and didn't research enough before trying to make a big change. Probably a driver issue that i'm experiencing.

Any suggestions? I would really hate to put my old mobo back in, just so I can go and uninstall mobo drivers.

Please ignore pre-existing system information at the bottom, this is the updated relevant specs.


OLD Intel system:
Mobo - XFX 750I Extreme
Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo
Video - Zotac 9800GSO
Ram - Crucial 6gb DDR2

NEW AMD system:
Mobo - Asrock 970DE3/U3S3
Processor - AMD FX 8120
Video - Pre-existing Zotac
RAM - Crucial 8gb DDR3
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Home Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
AMD FX 8120 -8 Core Black Edition
Motherboard
AsRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX
Memory
8GB Crucial 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Nvidia 650TI
Sound Card
On Board Dolby THX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23''
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar GP 1TB IntelliPower SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
600Watt OCZ Stealth xStream
Case
Sigma Phantom
Cooling
Standard 5 fan in case, Standard CPU.
Keyboard
Gigabyte
Mouse
Gigabyte
Internet Speed
20mbps
You forgot one thing! Once you make a major hardware change a clean install of Windows is just about always a mandate to see the best results! You can however try the Repair Install method to see if you could save the existing copy of Windows but may likely run into any number of possible problems between lingering device drivers for hardwares and chipset no longer seen as well as other things!

The best practical advice anyone can give you for this however is still to see a http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
Crap, yeah I was afraid you were gonna say that :cry:

Sad fact is, I've lost my Windows 7 Install DVD somewhere in my mess of computer parts so i'm either gonna have to dig or go chuck some more money at this thing and make it work.


I have a 1TB drive in right now, with a TON of data... if i run a fresh install over the top of the existing OS, am I going to loose any user data or important files?

I have 32bit now, but the AMD is a 64bit. I suppose now would be the time to make the change?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Home Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
AMD FX 8120 -8 Core Black Edition
Motherboard
AsRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX
Memory
8GB Crucial 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Nvidia 650TI
Sound Card
On Board Dolby THX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23''
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar GP 1TB IntelliPower SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
600Watt OCZ Stealth xStream
Case
Sigma Phantom
Cooling
Standard 5 fan in case, Standard CPU.
Keyboard
Gigabyte
Mouse
Gigabyte
Internet Speed
20mbps
AMD64 is what you would expect to see after 2003 and on. That has nothing to do with the OS itself but supports the 64bit OSs. The Repair Install option would upgrade over the existing installation to refresh all system files while keeping programs, files, folders, and unfortunately the now no longer wanted existing drivers inplace!

The first thing you can do if the Startup repair isn't able to get you upto the desktop where the "This may be a counterfeit copy of Windows" will likely now being found in the lower right hand corner of the screen since the hardware profile has been changed would be uninstalling what you can as far as the old board drivers in particular before trying install anything new.

When upgrading a case to that extent it is just as if you built an entirely new one! Likewise over the summer months I finally got around to swapping out the main board, cpu, memory, keeping the old video and sound cards, and added in a brand new supply which then required a full clean install of Vista for that.

The first thing you can do in the meantime if you go with the upgrade to repair method would be making sure you back everything up you can to another drive in anticipatation that a clean install may be forced on you if the upgrade over plus new hardwares end up seeing too many errors. That's the drawback of making a large change like this without planning ahead where the best possible formula is total wipe, start over fresh!

Now for simply performing a clean install without a reformat the Windows.old folder will pack away most of your user files and other things there. You can make a backup using the Windows Easy Transfer tool prior to any clean install and see that restore user files as well as program settings once Windows and all programs are back on fresh.

Method One in one of the guides here at SF explain how to use the Sysprep tool for moving the hard drive with 7 already installed into a new system. In an actual sense you have already done the move as far as the hardware changes but would have been better off using the Sysprep tool before the swap was made as you can see in the first part of the guide seen at http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/135077-windows-7-installation-transfer-new-computer.html

The WET however can still be used for the user files and setting to preserve those elements while a manual backup of other things not found under the "C:\users\" directory will be needed if the repair should falter on you. If you are put in the spot of performing a clean install from scratch once everything is back up and running again that would be the time for one other backup option to consider. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
Thanks NightHawk! You've been a lot of help.


I found my original 7 install disk in a pile of junk that i'm now organizing!


Currently waiting for Windows 7 to finish installing. What i ended up doing was a custom installation on the original hard disk, and letting it move all of my current info to Windows.old folder and I'll recover settings later.


EDIT: During the install process, after reaching the 'Expanding Installation Files' section, I reached an error stating that:

"Windows cannot install required files. Make sure all files required for installation are availible, and restart the application."

What? I've successfully used this disk before. Why am i having issues with this install?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Home Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
AMD FX 8120 -8 Core Black Edition
Motherboard
AsRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX
Memory
8GB Crucial 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Nvidia 650TI
Sound Card
On Board Dolby THX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23''
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar GP 1TB IntelliPower SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
600Watt OCZ Stealth xStream
Case
Sigma Phantom
Cooling
Standard 5 fan in case, Standard CPU.
Keyboard
Gigabyte
Mouse
Gigabyte
Internet Speed
20mbps
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EDIT: Hold tight, I think I've got it working. i'll update again shortly.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Home Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
AMD FX 8120 -8 Core Black Edition
Motherboard
AsRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX
Memory
8GB Crucial 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Nvidia 650TI
Sound Card
On Board Dolby THX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23''
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar GP 1TB IntelliPower SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
600Watt OCZ Stealth xStream
Case
Sigma Phantom
Cooling
Standard 5 fan in case, Standard CPU.
Keyboard
Gigabyte
Mouse
Gigabyte
Internet Speed
20mbps
Nailed it! Thanks for the help.


After running my experience rating and printing, I hit a BSOD. Gotta run updates and look for issues.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Home Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
AMD FX 8120 -8 Core Black Edition
Motherboard
AsRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX
Memory
8GB Crucial 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte Nvidia 650TI
Sound Card
On Board Dolby THX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23''
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar GP 1TB IntelliPower SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
600Watt OCZ Stealth xStream
Case
Sigma Phantom
Cooling
Standard 5 fan in case, Standard CPU.
Keyboard
Gigabyte
Mouse
Gigabyte
Internet Speed
20mbps
You have to run the upgrade advisor to find out where the hang up is being seen if you are still running into any problems. Download Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor from Official Microsoft Download Center

It certainly won't be anything hardware related if no faults are present since I dropped a fest temp install of 7 on an old boat anchor and the 32bit flavor ran first on 512mb until the pair of dimms saw the contacts cleaned and were reseated to get the 1gb total. A look at the memory dump for the blues you had could also be a help.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
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