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oreo27

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted some input on a situation that I'm currently facing.

An Athlon 64 2 desktop was brought to me for repairs when the Windows XP on it ceased to boot. I then tried their CD which was scratched to the brim and it didn't install properly. I then tried, as an evaluation copy my Windows 7 CD on the machine. It installed fine for several days until the owner came to pick it up. Wanting to present the fixed desktop to recommend they got another copy of their Windows XP CD, it had a BCD error. So I was a bit so I was a bit surprised and told him that I'd look further into it. I figured it was the HDD that was corrupted and true enough, when testing it with HDTune, it had several bad sectors.

I replaced that SATA drive with another one I had which was a known good drive and it did the same thing, Windows couldn't even install properly this time.

I figured this was an issue with either the SATA controller or the PSU. But after several unexpected "power -offs" from the machine, I decided it was the PSU, which I just replaced with a brand new one. I then formatted and imaged the machine just in case.

Same thing happened again after a day with the owner. It's now back with me. I did notice something else though. Almost always when booting onto safe mode or any live environment such as Parted Magic, Hiren's Boot CD MiniXP, I get a garbled display. It finally went back to having an issue with the BCD after several attempts to start it in different modes. Perhaps this is just a side effect of hard power offs. I can't say it's a on board GPU problem since it doesn't happen even spending hours on DOS environments.

I'm certainly confused right now and I just imaged the machine right now and I'm thinking on it. I'd love some input on this.

Currently, I'm leaning towards replacing the motherboard. I've already done a memtest for the RAM and that seems to be in order.

Any input on this will surely help. Thanks!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 Propus 2.9 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock N68C-GS FX
Memory
2 x 4GB Corsair XMS 3 DDR3 -1600 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
On-board 6-Channel HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
18' LG Flatron E1942TC-BN on DVI, 18' Chimei 95ND on HDMI
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 2
Hard Drives
1 x 500 GB Seagate
1 x 1 TB Western Digital Caviar Green
1 x 1 TB Hitachi Touro Mobile USB 3
PSU
Seasonic S12II 520W
Case
Generic with Cable Management
Cooling
Deep Cool Gammaxx 200
Keyboard
Dragonwar Desert Eagle
Mouse
Logitech B85
Internet Speed
5Mb/s DL, 0.9Mb/s UL
Antivirus
ESET Nod32
Browser
Google Chrome 64 Bit
Other Info
LG G4 H818P - Rooted with Xposed Framework
you could try different SATA ports, but it sounds like there is something broken in the CPU or mobo as they are the only ones that can screw up data in a HDD other than the HDD itself and RAM that are clean as you said.

Using a relatively high-end (10 years ago anywa, for nowadays standards it is trashy) 64mb GPU would be A LOT better than whatever that board has as integrated graphics, but I think that it's unrelated with the main issue.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
CPU
AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
you could try different SATA ports, but it sounds like there is something broken in the CPU or mobo as they are the only ones that can screw up data in a HDD other than the HDD itself and RAM that are clean as you said.

Using a relatively high-end (10 years ago anywa, for nowadays standards it is trashy) 64mb GPU would be A LOT better than whatever that board has as integrated graphics, but I think that it's unrelated with the main issue.

Yup, already tried a different SATA port. So would you consider getting a discrete GPU? Because that's what I'm considering now.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 Propus 2.9 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock N68C-GS FX
Memory
2 x 4GB Corsair XMS 3 DDR3 -1600 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
On-board 6-Channel HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
18' LG Flatron E1942TC-BN on DVI, 18' Chimei 95ND on HDMI
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 2
Hard Drives
1 x 500 GB Seagate
1 x 1 TB Western Digital Caviar Green
1 x 1 TB Hitachi Touro Mobile USB 3
PSU
Seasonic S12II 520W
Case
Generic with Cable Management
Cooling
Deep Cool Gammaxx 200
Keyboard
Dragonwar Desert Eagle
Mouse
Logitech B85
Internet Speed
5Mb/s DL, 0.9Mb/s UL
Antivirus
ESET Nod32
Browser
Google Chrome 64 Bit
Other Info
LG G4 H818P - Rooted with Xposed Framework
yes, as I said even a trashy one (by nowadays standards) will be better than the integrated one, and it will likely fix the video issues.

Point is, I doubt it will matter for the installation becoming corrupt, but you never know. I have a bunch of such cards I use for troubleshooting, you may want to invest in a few if you are a tech.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
CPU
AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
I had a pc once that drove me crazy for a week. Machine would boot sometimes. When at desktop, erratic behavior.

Constant freezes, corruption, etc. One by one I replaced every piece of hardware (except mobo). Still the errors persisted.

By accident, I found out that one connector INSIDE the molex plugged into the hd was burned. Had to replace because all others were used for peripherals. Problem solved.

So, unplug all the molexes, and look inside to see if they are all pristine white; no brown or black discoloration.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
8 home-builds from the 80's into 2004
OS
W7 Home Premium 32bit
yes, as I said even a trashy one (by nowadays standards) will be better than the integrated one, and it will likely fix the video issues.

Point is, I doubt it will matter for the installation becoming corrupt, but you never know. I have a bunch of such cards I use for troubleshooting, you may want to invest in a few if you are a tech.

Yup, that can't be explained by the faulty graphics So I guess the best way is with the replacement of the board. Well, I'm not officially a tech yet.

I had a pc once that drove me crazy for a week. Machine would boot sometimes. When at desktop, erratic behavior.

Constant freezes, corruption, etc. One by one I replaced every piece of hardware (except mobo). Still the errors persisted.

By accident, I found out that one connector INSIDE the molex plugged into the hd was burned. Had to replace because all others were used for peripherals. Problem solved.

So, unplug all the molexes, and look inside to see if they are all pristine white; no brown or black discoloration.

Looked into that and already replaced my HDD :cry:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 Propus 2.9 GHz
Motherboard
ASRock N68C-GS FX
Memory
2 x 4GB Corsair XMS 3 DDR3 -1600 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
On-board 6-Channel HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
18' LG Flatron E1942TC-BN on DVI, 18' Chimei 95ND on HDMI
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 2
Hard Drives
1 x 500 GB Seagate
1 x 1 TB Western Digital Caviar Green
1 x 1 TB Hitachi Touro Mobile USB 3
PSU
Seasonic S12II 520W
Case
Generic with Cable Management
Cooling
Deep Cool Gammaxx 200
Keyboard
Dragonwar Desert Eagle
Mouse
Logitech B85
Internet Speed
5Mb/s DL, 0.9Mb/s UL
Antivirus
ESET Nod32
Browser
Google Chrome 64 Bit
Other Info
LG G4 H818P - Rooted with Xposed Framework
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