Is Windows 7 still popular these days?

[FerchogtX]

Both of you need to test Linux Mint... average users rarely need to mess with terminal anymore...

 

[MickeyT2008]

Although Windows 7 is a good operating system I prefer Windows 10, and now that DirectX12 games are becoming commonplace it's necessary, although of course multibooting 10 and 7 together is fairly simple. Windows 10 is a lot like Windows 7 with the fairly useless start menu replaced with Windows Phone OS and I quite like it.

 

[Layback Bear]

That is just what I don't want.
I want my PC's to look and work like a PC not a phone.

From post #42

Windows 10 is a lot like Windows 7 with the fairly useless start menu replaced with Windows Phone OS and I quite like it.

Jack

 

[Lance1]

Not mine. The filing system's a mess. Folders that don't really exist containing files that don't exist. Junction points with folders within folders like a Hall of Mirrors. Links that point to themselves. You get permission to install a setup file, then you're told the decompressed files don't have permission to open. I'm wondering about how the average user who doesn't go to forums for help can install and run their programs. Or maybe they just use whatever programs came with the computer.

It sounds to me like your system is a mess.... I've been running Win 7 for years and the symptoms your mention never occur on any of my 5 system running Win 7. Support runs out in 2020. I'll be running Win 7 for some years after that.

 

[AddRAM]

Windows 7 is the best

 

[pippox0]

I will use windows 7 for a lot of years more when it will end at 2020.
I have just prepared myself to this.
I have created backup of all OS, drivers, ect. so i can re-install all the times i want ...

 

[MickeyT2008]

That is just what I don't want.

That's no problem because you're not me and we're both free to use whichever operating system or systems we prefer

 

[Phil314]

I long since realised that Redmond was peopled by folks unable to find work with General Motors. As a result, Microsoft turned into a car manufacturer, with successive models re-designed according to Redmond diktat. Though all were described as 'Operating Systems', closer acquaintance revealed them to be vehicles for ego trips. Not road trips. And the ego was, but of course, that of Microsoft itself.

For example: I'd find that the steering wheel had moved from one side of the car to the other -- and even to the rear seat. The windshield at least stayed where it should be, though was now entirely opaque, so no chance of actually seeing through it to figure out where you were going. But at least the wipers were now quite pretty, because Microsoft had made 'em multi-colored, even arranging for them to very often stick fast rather than park, the better to allow one to appreciate the sheer cleverness of the aesthetic.

The engine compartment, which used to be accessible, was now re-organised such as to fill half the trunk and part of the sump. A plethora of new controls and shiny buttons accompanied each new version, including one which took the roof clean off in the middle of a downpour despite the fact that what you'd bought was a hard top. There was even one model where the wheels fell off completely and couldn't be put back on, something called Windows 8, I think.

Eventually, Microsoft equipped its offerings with a resident representative, an individual so discreet that you'd hardly know it was there but which nevertheless traveled everywhere with you and when you came home sat in your garage sending notes back to Redmond so as to improve your Driver Experience -- amazing, though even more so was the subsequent fitting as standard, rather than as an option, of a Microsoft representative who actually followed you indoors to find out what you were doing, see if you were eating the right stuff, reading the right stuff. Even buying the right stuff.

Complaining to Microsoft, or on an Internet forum, merely betrayed your own ignorance, resulting -- as it so often did -- only in the lofty advice that You. Have. To. Learn. 'S your fault, wanting something you can use as you intend, rather than how Microsoft intends. Once you've understood that there's no good reason for the steering wheel to be at the front and every good reason for the transmission to be on the roof, well, there you are then. Get with it, OK?

Amongst all that though, there were a few things Microsoft managed to get right. Windows XP, which my wife still runs on her laptop, and Windows 7, which I have on this pooter. XP I didn't have too much trouble with at the time; Windows 7, by contrast, needed a bit of customising but since then has worked just fine. So-oooo, as to the question:

Is Windows 7 still popular these days? Answer: I dunno; is oxygen still popular?

I know I can't manage without it, nor have any desire to attempt to. And I rather suspect I'm not the only one.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...The engine compartment, which used to be accessible, was now re-organised such as to fill half the trunk and part of the sump. A plethora of new controls and shiny buttons accompanied each new version...

Eventually, Microsoft equipped its offerings with a resident representative, an individual so discreet that you'd hardly know it was there but which nevertheless traveled everywhere with you and when you came home sat in your garage sending notes back to Redmond so as to improve your Driver Experience -- amazing, though even more so was the subsequent fitting as standard, rather than as an option, of a Microsoft representative who actually followed you indoors to find out what you were doing, see if you were eating the right stuff, reading the right stuff. Even buying the right stuff...

I chuckled at your entire satirical analogy although much of it actually is becoming true in cars. I used to work on the engines of my cars but, now, the engine compartments are too crowded for even my small hands, are far too complicated, and require too much special equipment for me to do most of my own work anymore (granted, old age doesn't help any). In many vehicles, some components traditionally located in the engine compartment, such as batteries, are now located elsewhere and some components, such as transmissions and differentials, that were located elsewhere, are now in the engine compartments. Engines are being turned sideways or backwards. The engine compartments are even being relocated, such as under the floor.

Many vehicles now have GPS systems that can be used to locate and track them. Some can even be used to disable a vehicle remotely. The computers store data on your driving habits, such as how fast the vehicle has been driven. Insurance companies are giving customers discounts to allow them to install devices that transmit where you are, how fast you drive, how hard you brake, how far you drive, when you drive, etc. back to the insurance company.

 

[Phil314]

If I bring in my Morris Minor then . . . can you service her? Betcha you could. Two problems though: (1) 'tis a long way to Arizona for me, even though it's my joint favourite State (with Colorado) and (2) sadly, that ol' Morris Minor went off into the sunset long ago. My wife used to have an Austin A40 -- this was years before Volkswagen claimed its Golf had re-invented the motor car -- and not only was its engine fully accessible at all times, so, too, was the highway. With your feet. But we did manage to get the floor welded a couple of times. You're right about today's cars though. I've decided it's all down to men who have moved from the Oedipus complex to the Umbilical complex, this desperate need to remain connected. Regards to AZ. (Best fish 'n chips ever in Carefree, by the way.)

 

[cornemuse]

I have 7 64bit on a Toshiba laptop, (505xxx) I (luckily for me) cloned the hdd & installed the 'free' version of 10. <- that didnt last for long, I hated 10. I actually have an hdd with XP 64 bit I can swap out in the laptop.

I can live with 7 but much prefer XP. Tried zorin mint puppy etc, but prefer ubuntu 11.xx or 12.xx (<- one that allows changing back to gnome, later versions claimed to be able to revert, but in my experience was never able to revert, , , ,)

They cannot improve os without totally changing gui??? give me a break! <-this is my main gripe.

 

[Layback Bear]

Different strokes for different folks.

I don't dislike W-10 and stay with Windows 7 just for the hell of it. The cell phone look is not what I expect on a PC, nor do I want it.
W-10 in some ways is a improvement but in other ways it's that way because the board room at Microsoft likes it.
I don't blame Microsoft for using their store like Apple does. It makes them money. They should make money. I don't think all the extra programs and abilities Microsoft adds to W-10 are bad if one desires to use them.
Their I said it; "if one desires to use them".
That is the big thing for me. Make things accessible without being a computer expert.
All extra goodies should have a on and off button that is known to the average user.
It' shouldn't take 6 tutorials to be able to do basic setting to the operating system.
Windows Updates should not beat up on your system; making one, two or more days of work getting it back to their liking.

I could go on and on but to me their is a simple way to get people to buy a new operating system.
Make the operating system that over a billion already Microsoft customers want to buy.
W-10 has been out for over a year and it's still being 'beta' tested. That is plain and simple bull droppings. The testers of W-10 have said what they like and what they don't like. It doesn't seem to me that Microsoft cares what their customers want.

What customers asked to get Updates or Upgrades to a operating system that made them completely redo their system? Doing things like that gets old very quick.
What business or corporation can take the chance that a Update of W-10 can shut them down?
Reliability, reliability and more reliability is a absolute must. As a pee-on home user I also look for reliability in hardware, programs and operating systems. I could give a damn if the system boots 10 seconds faster.

Things a operating system should be in my opinion.

1. Reliable
2. Secure
3. Usable for the market it was designed for.
4. Controllable for the market place it was designed for.
5. New and inventive to make one want to buy it and use it over what they already have for a operating system.

I know Microsoft can do these things because they have done it before.
Microsoft has had a few operating systems that didn't cut the mustard but a batter doesn't hit a home run every time at bat.

I'm waiting for my type of W-10. Come on Microsoft, I know you can do it.

Yes I am a Microsoft fan boy, but I still call it like I see it.
I'm a nobody so who really cares what I think?
I will answer that question. How about a billion plus Windows 7 users.
We, they, them, us and yes me will buy it if you make it following the five things I listed.
We are not looking for a free ride but rather a ride worth paying for.


Just my opinion.
Jack

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...They cannot improve os without totally changing gui??? give me a break! <-this is my main gripe.

Actually, for MS' unrealistic goal of one OS for every kind of device (eliminating the need for MS to maintain more than one OS at a time), be it a desktop, laptop, notebook, tablet, or phone, it was necessary to change the gui (I feel it would have been better to create a modular OS that one can add to according to one's needs and the hardware the OS is going to be used with, including more than one gui). Unfortunately, the new gui was far more suited for tiny screened (comparatively speaking) phones and tablets than was for devices that were intended to be used with larger (and even multiple) screens and real keyboards. However, the tiles that are just the right size for fingertips on a phone's touch screen became monstrous and space wasting on a much larger screen. After years of desktops and laptops becoming increasingly powerful to be able to handle the increasing number and sophistication of features being offered, the sudden "dumbing down" of the OS to accommodate the the less powerful hardware and the tiny screens of phones is an insult to more sophisticate computer users. MS is getting away with it (for now) because most of its customer base consists of people who use their computers for only basic tasks that can be done on a comparatively low powered device with a tiny screen.

While I can understand MS' desire to break into the rapidly growing portable computing market (although that came rather late), I cannot condone MS crippling their OS at the expense of a smaller segment of consumers, making consumers the product through invasion of privacy, etc., taking away many our choices for how to use their products (Win 7 was the last OS that gave us the most choices), reducing support by making the general public their guinea pigs instead of thoroughly testing updates and (alleged) upgrades before releasing them upon the hapless consumers of the lower versions of Win 10, and making frequent changes that frequently break older software and hardware due to newly introduced incompatibility.

It used to be when one bought (excuse me, bought a license for) a MS OS, one could expect it to be reasonably stable and unchanging for the next ten years once the initial bugs were worked out during the first year or two. Not everyone is able to deal with a frequently changing OS, such as Win 10. Frequently replacing software and hardware and retraining employees both slows productivity and is expensive for businesses. MS is getting away with it for now because it has become so huge but, eventually, it will lead to its downfall as consumers and businesses rebel and new OSes emerge. Even Apple is more palatable than MS anymore (one reason why I now advise friends who need new computers to buy Macs instead of Windows devices, even though I'm eschewing Apple's walled garden). Apple even offers far better consumer support for their products than MS.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
All Apple support is for hire not free
Not sure if Apple has any free software beside craptime player lol

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Hi,
All Apple support is for hire not free
Not sure if Apple has any free software beside craptime player lol

Apple does offer some free support for new buyers, including free lessons on how to use Macs. Apple also does have free software.

 

[AddRAM]

me too, though I use Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64...

I just wonder how Windows 11 will turn out when they start development at some point in the next 5 years probably.... I just hope they don't scr*w Windows up even more....

Windows 11 :roflmao:

 

[Melchior]

Windows 11 :roflmao:

ha ha very funny.. lol

 

[ethel]

windows 7

Hello AddRAM, I was thinking seeing as Microsoft went from Windows 8 to Windows 10, they may skip

11 and come up with Windows 12.

 

[RoasterMen]

Both of you need to test Linux Mint... average users rarely need to mess with terminal anymore...

I use Linux Debian 16.04 for arcade games.

 

[matfx]

Speak of GUI what can't Microsoft maintain the Windows 7 gui in Windows 10? Windows 10 gui just plain flat and not attractive at all.