Is Windows 7 the last "real" Microsoft desktop PC OS?

Wrend

New member
Power User
VIP
Local time
11:02 AM
Messages
355
I have my suspicions, believe it or not, that it might actually be... :shock:

Windows 9 will unify the smartphone, tablet, desktop, and console, but is it too little too late? | ExtremeTech

Et cetera.

Your thoughts? Are we entering the dark ages of accelerating ignorant user placation through "technology for the masses?"

Race issues aside, this ill conceived trend of excessively simplified (and functionally limited) handheld computers (and their OSs) for the masses makes me think of teachers teaching Ebonics in English classes.

...

My preference would be for Microsoft to go in the other direction and redefine the handheld OS, making it more like a "real" computer OS. For example, using Windows 7 on my Nexus 7 is very straightforward and intuitive. I use the high resolution touchscreen interface in a similar way to using a touchpad mouse, so I don't have to hover my finger/thumb over what I'm selecting and "clicking" (tapping) on. I then of course have the full functionality of a capable PC OS and its compatible software "on the go" on a touchscreen device that fits in my jacket or pants pocket.
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfc...Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHzCorsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 16...EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfce, Debian 10 64bit Xfce
CPU
Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Corsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2, SLI)
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony Bravia 46"
Screen Resolution
1920×1080 (Full Screen), 1366×768 (Windows)
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 PRO 4TB SSD, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, Western Digital WD Gold 16TB 7200 RPM 512MB Cache HDD
PSU
Corsair AX1200 (1200W, 100.4A @ 12V)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H110, 5 NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K360
Mouse
Logitech M220
Browser
Firefox Developer Edition, Pale Moon, Tor
My own two cents is that I personally have zero use for mobile, handheld, smartphone versions of Windows.
I'm a desktop-only guy and that means that I need a desktop metaphor so that I can actually get productive work done with keyboard and mouse. I sit at an office desk, not a table at Starbucks or sitting and waiting for the next bus.

A touchpad is not a desktop; they're two totally different ways of using computer devices - mobile is for consumption of data, desktop is for production of data.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win10 Pro 64-bitAMD Ryzen 7 3800X32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Win10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 UD
Memory
32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
Case
SilverStone PS10 (modified)
Cooling
CPU:AMD Wraith Prism. Case:3x Noctua 120mm
Keyboard
Compaq Professional PS/2
Mouse
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Internet Speed
Fiber 1Gbit/sec down/up
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
FF, Chrome
Other Info
2x LG GH24NSC0 DVD burners, Mackie CR3 monitor speakers
Yeah, tablets are for mobility, more so even than laptops, and aren't that well suited to many of the desktop PC workloads/tasks.

However, I would disagree with the apparent general assumption that tablets need to run simplified, and excessively large icon/tile, drag-scrolling, and tapping versions of OSs to be used effectively and efficiently. That a "real" OS is seeming to emulate tablet style OSs to make an across-platform-experience makes no sense to me, and seems to be progressing OS interfaces in the completely wrong direction.

Sorry for the picture being a little blurry.

Windows 7 on Nexus 7.jpg
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfc...Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHzCorsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 16...EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfce, Debian 10 64bit Xfce
CPU
Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Corsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2, SLI)
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony Bravia 46"
Screen Resolution
1920×1080 (Full Screen), 1366×768 (Windows)
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 PRO 4TB SSD, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, Western Digital WD Gold 16TB 7200 RPM 512MB Cache HDD
PSU
Corsair AX1200 (1200W, 100.4A @ 12V)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H110, 5 NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K360
Mouse
Logitech M220
Browser
Firefox Developer Edition, Pale Moon, Tor
I seriously doubt it, after all what operating system will they use on the Enterprise ?
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro x64Intel Core i7 6700KGSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
Well, I do use Microsoft's Starfield simulation screensaver still... How could I not? :geek:

It did try to access the internet though, but I didn't allow it to.

256px-HAL9000.svg.png
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfc...Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHzCorsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 16...EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfce, Debian 10 64bit Xfce
CPU
Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Corsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2, SLI)
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony Bravia 46"
Screen Resolution
1920×1080 (Full Screen), 1366×768 (Windows)
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 PRO 4TB SSD, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, Western Digital WD Gold 16TB 7200 RPM 512MB Cache HDD
PSU
Corsair AX1200 (1200W, 100.4A @ 12V)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H110, 5 NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K360
Mouse
Logitech M220
Browser
Firefox Developer Edition, Pale Moon, Tor
I'm a desktop guy as well. I do enjoy sitting in front of my 23" monitor using my keyboard and mouse. I went out of my way to get the dumbest cell phone I could find, it makes and receives phone calls.

I understand the needs and wants for other devices but making a desktop act and look like an iPhone doesn't make sense to me. Looks like Windows 7 will be on my computer for the duration of my existence. Sometimes being old is a good thing.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Wind...1. AMD Phenom II x2 511 3.4GHz 2. Intel i7-47...1. 5 GB - DDR3 2. 8GB DDR3-1600MHzIntegrated 1. ATI Radeon 4200 2. Intel HD Gra...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
1. HP p6733w Desktop 2. HP Envy 700-515xt Desktop
OS
1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
CPU
1. AMD Phenom II x2 511 3.4GHz 2. Intel i7-4790 Quad 4.0GHz
Motherboard
1. N-Alvorix-RS880-uATX 2. Kaili2
Memory
1. 5 GB - DDR3 2. 8GB DDR3-1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated 1. ATI Radeon 4200 2. Intel HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
1. Realtek High Definition Audio 2. Realtek (Neutered Beats)
Monitor(s) Displays
1. Acer V193L 2. HP 2311 Series Wide LCD
Screen Resolution
1. 1280 x 1024 2. 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1. 750 GB - 7200 RPM SATA 2. 1TB 7200 RPM SATA
PSU
1. 250w 2. 300w
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Logitech USB keyboard
Mouse
Logitech USB optical mouse
Internet Speed
1.0 - 2.0 mbps
Antivirus
Eset Smart Security v9.0.349.0
Browser
Pale Moon
I think, If MS wants to survive they will continue making OS for the Desktops. There are many people who still likes to touch the keyboard and mouse rather than the screen itself.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 x64i5 2500K @ 3.3 GHz16 GB DDR 3 @ 1600MhzMSI 1050TI 4GB OC version
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Bulid/Self made
OS
Windows 11 x64
CPU
i5 2500K @ 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P8 Z77 V pro
Memory
16 GB DDR 3 @ 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI 1050TI 4GB OC version
Sound Card
On Board (Realtek HD audio)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1920*1080
Hard Drives
Seagate 1 TB, WD 1TB, Seagate 2 TB ( I use a lot of space)
PSU
coolermaster 750 W
Case
Coolermaster HAF912
Cooling
Coolermaster hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Samsung
Mouse
Dell Wireless
Internet Speed
Wireless 50 Mbps
Antivirus
AVG 2016 Internet Security
Browser
Google Chrome
I seriously doubt it, after all what operating system will they use on the Enterprise ?

The original Star Trek Enterprise had a Commodore C64 in the background of the bridge.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
The C64 was introduced in 1982, 13 years after Star Trek TOS (The Original Series) was last produced.
Commodore 64 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Star Trek: The Original Series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Back OT, I think if MS wants to continue they should concentrate on what they have done best developing OSes for computers be it desktop, laptop, or netbook. Their foray in to tablets (surface, Surface RT) have been dismal. I don't want/need an OS that needs to be prodded and poked into submission and can't do real productive work without the addition of a slew of add-ons.

I do have an Android phone and the wife a Kindle Fire both of which can do computer-like functions, browsing, reading emails, etc. For video editing, photo editing and creating images, complex spread sheets, I'll still want to use a real computer.

To succeed I think MS needs to create separate OSes for computers and mobile devices or give the buyer/user the option of which to install to their equipment.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No buil...16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GBASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
How do you know that those guys on Star Trek did not have some remote viewers or the like in their circles, and do stuff like showing off the upcoming tech for kicks. Just look at that SG1 show!. Cheers, enough doom and gloom. I can not wait to see what these quantum computers can do. Supposedly the Chinese have one??

The Tech writeup is not so suprising is it? Has MS ever portrayed themselves as a company with good sense over a god complex. I really doubt if the desktop goes anywhere in the forseeable future, I just keep on rooting for the guys like AMD, who want a more desktop that is made of components instead of one big board.
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ult 64AMD Phenom II X6 1100T8 GIGAMD 6670
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Win 7 Ult 64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Memory
8 GIG
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 6670
Hard Drives
Several WDs
Boot- Intel SSD
Antivirus
Norton, Malwarebytes, HitMan Pro
Browser
Firefox
Unfortunately, the name of the game seems to be "proprietary." :(

We'll probably end up leasing our computers (not just "smart" phones) along with the software that runs on them sooner or later.

Going the way of "home equity" (mortgages).

It's all about finding the most efficient way to maximize profits and release you of the burden of being able to save for the future.

I know I'm looking forward to shopping on the Microsoft App. store for leasing everything I want to run on my PC... :sick:

...

For the time being, at least we can stay ahead of the game by being more knowledgeable and resourceful than the average bear.

...

Sorry, a bit off topic, but I think it's a relevant factor in this "products and services" movement. I mean, if Microsoft is no longer primarily an OS software company, then where does that leave us and our OSs? Is Windows turning into cross-platform Adware?
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfc...Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHzCorsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 16...EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfce, Debian 10 64bit Xfce
CPU
Intel i7-3930K @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Corsair Dominator 64GB Quad Channel DDR3 @ 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black Superclocked (×2, SLI)
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony Bravia 46"
Screen Resolution
1920×1080 (Full Screen), 1366×768 (Windows)
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 PRO 4TB SSD, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, Western Digital WD Gold 16TB 7200 RPM 512MB Cache HDD
PSU
Corsair AX1200 (1200W, 100.4A @ 12V)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H110, 5 NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K360
Mouse
Logitech M220
Browser
Firefox Developer Edition, Pale Moon, Tor
I agree with the OP; Microsoft has gone in the completely wrong direction. Windows 7 is the first one I was actually happy with, out of 2000, XP, and Vista, though XP was satisfactory. I was actually hopeful that it would get better from there. Y'know, back when I was young and naive.
When I was maybe 10 or 11, I used to think that since mobile devices were getting more powerful,they would become more like full-blown computers. The thought made me drool - I'm not kidding. Never did I expect this though - the computing world willingly limiting itself to lesser functionality. I think this whole thing is a scheme by Microsoft to subjugate the masses further. After all, if there's less things to control, there's less things for the user to mess up, less solutions to find on your own, which is how I picked up an interest in computers in the first place. And the less people there are interested in how it works, the less people there are looking for something that works better. I realise this must sound insanely paranoid, but would you put it past them? This makes even more sense when you take into account the fact that computers don't come with OEM Win7 anymore - with such a massive overhaul, shouldn't they have kept the Win7's coming for at least a while longer?
I admit that Win8 is by no means bad; if you're running it on a touch screen. If you don't have one though, using it is like trying to draw the Mona Lisa in Paint, using only your mouse.

The guys at Ubuntu have got it the right way around; just look at the Ubuntu Edge. It would be a dream come true, if it could run Windows. And that would probably be made possible soon after its release - if it does release.

So, make the computer more like the smartphone?Hell, no. Make the smartphone more like the computer? Oh, yes please.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1NVIDIA GEFORCE
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaPad Z570
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GEFORCE
Hard Drives
ATA TOSHIBA MK6465GSX (Firmaware: GJ004E)
Antivirus
None
Browser
Google Chrome, Firefox (occasionally)
Back
Top